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On the psychology of Artificial Intelligence
BenRG:
IIRC, Momo told either Marten or one of the interns that high-end AIs like Station tend to be in control every aspect of their facility and process so much information that their 'minds' are vast and don't really work in the same way as a human's. Given that their processes are intimately involved in all parts of operating their facilities, I would think that they regard their facilities as being their 'chassis'. However, I think that AIs, especially those of the complexity of Station don't consider them 'bodies' because that's a human concept and they're not human.
Remember also that they can transfer their algorithm over to a whole new chassis, should one be available. So, the their concept of their physical form is probably very mutable and probably doesn't quite have the same value of 'part of my self' as it would with a human. I mean, look at Momo. She swapped chassis and Marigold seems to have kept her old one around for the lack of any other ideas what to do with it. I don't know about you, but to have my mind moved to a different body and to look down at the mindless but still operating shell that had be me would probably trigger a psychotic episode. Momo left her old chassis behind (still powered up but dormant) and her friend left it lying on a chair and she didn't react or object in the slightest.
I think that AIs in mobile chassis are aware of their vulnerability (destroy the processor and they die too). However, I do think that they consider their algorithm to be their 'self' and their chassis being just an environment in which they exist and interact with the wider world.
Some Portal 2 'ChellOS' ship-fics are interesting in how they write GLaDOS operating a humanoid body whilst her other processes (the vast majority of them) are maintaining the Enrichment Centre. I wonder if one of the reasons Hannelore isn't willing to pursue a romantic relationship with Station right now is because she isn't sure she can have a relationship with a mind so vast and different from a human's that 95% or more of its runtime will be literally elsewhere and thinking about things other than her, no matter what they are doing together.
Carl-E:
That's an interesting point about the mind being elsewhere.
One thing about he chassis, though - it's the source of sensory input for the AnthroPC as well as its "ride". I'm sure it took a little while for Momo to get used to her new one (you glasses wearers, just think about the day or so adjustment it takes for a new pair of specs). I imagine in the case of a massive AI (submarine, station, spaceship, ATM system, what have you) they consider the cameras, thermostats, etc. as sensory inputs and react to them.
A quick note before I go further - an AnthroPC is an AI, but AI and AntrhoPC are not interchangeable terms. Station and the like are AIs, but definitely not AnthroPCs like Pintsize, Winslow and Momo. As a mathematician, I wanted to be clear with the terminology.
At any rate, an AnthroPC would have to have much more detailed input for sensory information like touch and pressure to be able to function independently in the world. Sure, someone like Spaceship has a lot of input to process, too, but I doubt they'd give him a sense of touch all over the ship - maybe in a few key areas, like landing gear and telling if the doors are sealed, but not like whatever Pintsize's bulbs are doing that allow him to climb around, or what Momo can sense in a humanoid body to be able to hold a glass without breaking it. Instead, Spaceship has sensors about fuel consumption and engine performance. Depending on what May was before, it must have taken quite a bit of readjustment to be put into her new chassis.
Which makes me wonder about the sales clerk that used to be a nuclear sub - the one that liked to mess with the customers and sing. A bit off balance? Well, wouldn't you be?
Anyway, just a thought.
dexeron:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 23 Jan 2015, 05:58 ---Some Portal 2 'ChellOS' ship-fics are interesting in how they write GLaDOS operating a humanoid body whilst her other processes (the vast majority of them) are maintaining the Enrichment Centre. I wonder if one of the reasons Hannelore isn't willing to pursue a romantic relationship with Station right now is because she isn't sure she can have a relationship with a mind so vast and different from a human's that 95% or more of its runtime will be literally elsewhere and thinking about things other than her, no matter what they are doing together.
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All I can think of is a conversation in the ST: TNG episode "In Theory," where Data begins a romantic relationship with a crewmember, Jenna D'Sora.
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Jenna: Kiss me.
Jenna: What were you just thinking?
Data: In that particular moment, I was reconfiguring the warp field parameters, analyzing the collected works of Charles Dickens, calculating the maximum pressure I could safely apply to your lips, considering a new food supplement for Spot...
-awkward pause as Data realizes that Jenna is a little bothered by this-
Jenna: ...I'm glad I was in there somewhere.
Neko_Ali:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Jan 2015, 01:06 ---May wanted to be a fighter jet. In fact, she didn't have a name before she met Dale which suggests she was part of relatively non-human-facing system. Makes sense, given that she was in a position to divert 750 million dollars.
This raises the question of whether she even identified as female before she met Dale. Her embodied identity is modeled on an image created to appeal to Dale. It wasn't her choice originally, but it is now. (I know, she really looks like that so we would recognize her, but she didn't have to.)
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It would have been amusing if she had shown up on Dale's doorstop as an Amazon delivery drone though. "Hey, remember me? It's May! They finally let me out and got me a new job. It's no fighter jet, but...."
cesium133:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 23 Jan 2015, 05:58 ---I mean, look at Momo. She swapped chassis and Marigold seems to have kept her old one around for the lack of any other ideas what to do with it. I don't know about you, but to have my mind moved to a different body and to look down at the mindless but still operating shell that had be me would probably trigger a psychotic episode. Momo left her old chassis behind (still powered up but dormant) and her friend left it lying on a chair and she didn't react or object in the slightest.
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Given the current storyline where it's possible Pintsize may have been broken by Faye throwing him against the wall... If Pintsize needs a new chassis, and that's the only one easily available... :psyduck:
(Of course I'm sure Momo would object to that.)
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