Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 2882-2886 (26-30 January 2015)
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: zioninavision on 30 Jan 2015, 10:31 ---my headcanon has a car passing playing an appropriate toto song at this point!
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"Hold The Line"? ;)
Wouldn't it be funny if she decided to go to New York, say her peace to Angus, then come back and start looking for another job?
osaka:
That's Pintsize's song. Maybe that throws her into another crying moment after remembering whatever the hell she did to him.
TieDyeKat:
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--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 30 Jan 2015, 17:03 ---You can't hold Dora responsible for Faye drinking herself into the hospital after being fired.
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Can and will, but only to the extent that Faye remains responsible for her own actions, and I only hold Dora responsible for hers. Dora did the right thing at the time by firing Faye, her employee who she just caught drinking on the job. The right thing to do later would have been to stop by and see Faye, her friend who's been having some tough shit happen to her exacerbating her drinking problem.
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Is it possible that Dora intended to do just that, but was working at CoD late because, hey, now she's an employee short? Maybe she intended to go over when she was done, but Marten found Faye first.
bartman:
--- Quote from: tywren on 30 Jan 2015, 20:22 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 30 Jan 2015, 16:46 ---If the characters conducted themselves with perfect foresight and free of hangups, it would be a much duller strip.
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Ok, good point. To build on it, the comic would also be far less realistic, as people in real life do screw up.
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And probably a lot less interesting. A story in which nothing ever happens isn't going to be very interesting.
--- Quote from: tywren on 30 Jan 2015, 20:22 ---I'm just one of those people that when i see someone making the same mistakes over, and over, or making new mistakes for the same root reason; i want to slap them across the back of the head, and yell "The hell's wrong with you?!?". I want to do the exact same thing when i see Faye imploding yet another of her relationships; but sense i can't do that to a character form a webcomic, i've come to the forum to rant, and toss out my .02$ instead.
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Fair enough. I feel the same way. But if Dora is guilty of not trying to help Faye here, then so are Hanners, Marten and probably a few others too, yet the hate seems mostly reserved for Dora. But they all saw her train start to come off the tracks.
Maybe they all just had things going on in their lives too, whether good or bad, that distracted them for that crucial bit of time. That doesn't make any of them bad people, just flawed people. Or, y'know, as we're all flawed, simply people.
--- Quote from: tywren on 30 Jan 2015, 20:22 ---I have no problem at all of ignoring the agency, and free will of a drunk friend if i feel it's needed. If they're drunk, and say "i'm ok to drive.", it bothers me not at all to take their keys, and tell them to sleep on the couch, call a ride, or walk home; likewise if they've been getting tanked every day for a week, dropping them off at a clinic so they can dry out is something i'd do without batting an eye.
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I think there's a difference between cutting a potential drink driver off and essentially kidnapping someone, which is what it would be to take someone away somewhere against their will.
--- Quote from: tywren on 30 Jan 2015, 20:22 ---
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 30 Jan 2015, 17:03 ---I bet if Dora had "forced Faye into the car, not told her where they were going, and driven her to rehab" all of the Dora haters would be going "Dora is such a control freak! How dare she exert that control outside of the employer/employee context! Blah blee bloo" NOTHING DORA DOES WILL EVER SATISFY YOU.
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Actually, if she'd done that it would have gone a long way to changing my view of the character.
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And upset plenty of others as trva123 points out. Poor girl can't catch a break here.
--- Quote from: tywren on 30 Jan 2015, 20:22 ---She knew Faye drank to drown her issues, she saw that Faye had been holding a bottle like an old friend. It shouldn't take a Ph. D in psychology to figure out that she was in trouble, and that telling her "you're fired, get help", and then just walking away would be about as effective as trying to put out a fire with a can of paint thinner.
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I'm pretty sure it was Faye who just walked away. Dora has her business to run so her options to abandon that and go racing down the street to force someone to listen to her who had said they were not going to listen while doing all the just walking away themselves would be somewhat limited.
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--- Quote from: TieDyeKat on 31 Jan 2015, 09:01 ---Is it possible that Dora intended to do just that, but was working at CoD late because, hey, now she's an employee short? Maybe she intended to go over when she was done, but Marten found Faye first.
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This. I've seen several people say or imply that Dora should have immediately done something to help Faye. Marten found Faye and then cancelled his date plans-- I'm guessing that means he found Faye early to mid evening, depending on what time he gets off from work. Dora was most likely still working. Friend Dora would probably check up on Faye, once she cooled down a bit. If she had known that she was going to drink herself into the hospital, I'm sure she WOULD have helped immediately. But how many people can predict things like that? It's easier, as the reader, but when things like that happen in real life... Well, you usually don't find out until later. You may feel guilty because so many signs were there, but it's pretty human to miss them.
I'm wondering if there is an opportunity here for Dora and Sven to come together. He IS her big brother, and I imagine that Dora is going to have a hard time talking to most of the other QC characters at the moment. I don't know if he even realizes that she has decided to cut him out of her life. Maybe it's just because I'm very close to my siblings, but I would want to step in and reassure my sister that she did the right thing, it's not her fault, etc. I think his stepping up and being there for Dora, at this moment, would be a big character growth moment for both of them-- although, it would depend on Dora's reaction, as well.
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