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Truec:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 29 Jan 2015, 01:24 ---There seems to be a genuine possibility that Dora didn't know about the 'Emergency Bourbon'.

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I was about to say that Faye's brought it out while Dora was present before, but the best checking I can find without an all-night archive binge shows that Dora was always gone, either not in the shop or in the back.  Still, I'd expect Dora to be at least somewhat aware of what's being stored under the counters in her shop.

swapna:

--- Quote from: Stoon on 28 Jan 2015, 22:42 ---But it was right out in the open in comic 1639

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Stoon linked it already - Dora doesn't directly acknowledge seeing it, but I doubt there's any way to fail hearing Faye's: 'SHUT UP AND START DRINKING'

I think Dora knows about the Emergency Bourbon, which also explains why Faye had to smuggle a bottle into  work and not just sneak some of the booze that's already there.

ReindeerFlotilla:
Faye has woken up in hospital with limited memory of how she got there before. I would expect her vulnerable side to show in that situation. Her tough sassy side is neither an act or a means of distancing, alone. She was like this before her father died. But she does have a less fighty side to herself.

pendrake:
For comic #2885...

Faye has not hit Rock Bottom, not even close.

What this is, is Faye having gotten very, very lucky in admitting she has a problem and needs help.  Faye was caught early on, by her friends and herself, before she could fall very far.

From a previous life as a Social Worker, I have seen and dealt with Rock Bottom; the memories of seeing people that low, and the thought of ever becoming that low myself, still gives me nightmares at times, even after many years of having left that line of work.

I would not wish Rock Bottom upon people who have literally tried to KILL me.

ASB84:
As far as the Emergency Bourbon is concerned, in addition to being a throwaway gag (admittedly one that pops up a few times), it could also be that Dora is aware of it, but doesn't condone it being drunk while on the clock, unless she gives the green light. Same for beer and pizza; if she gives the OK, then she's relaxing the rule at her discretion and on her terms. Showing up to work drunk or drinking on the job at any other time though, when she hasn't given her explicit approval for the rule to be relaxed, is a different matter.

In my old job, drinking at work certainly wasn't condoned, and would've been grounds for dismissal. However, on a couple of Christmas Eves, my boss brought in a few beers and offered us one with about half an hour left in the day. And that was the difference: my boss relaxed the rule at his discretion, in the name of some seasonal goodwill and a thank you for working hard up until Christmas. It would've been a lot different had I just decided to bring a few beers (or even just one) into work whenever I felt like it.


--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Jan 2015, 01:09 ---Friendship is not transactional. People tend to think it is, but only when they need something or have been hurt. Friendship is just a group of people bumbling along in company, trying to make room for one another. Because it feels good.
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I definitely agree, but when friends fall out and both sides have played a part in it, then both need to acknowledge that for them to truly make amends.

We're also having that discussion from behind the fourth wall; analysing whether or not Dora was being a bad friend, and unjustified in her approach. To that end, it's worth pointing out that Faye stretched the friendship and played a role in Dora acting the way she did. In-universe, accusations and finger pointing are not going to be productive, but as far as our reactions, it's worth noting...especially as we're talking about two of the most polarising characters in the comic.

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