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WCDT: 2882-2886 (26-30 January 2015)
FilliamHMuffman:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 30 Jan 2015, 03:29 ---
She can be sorry that Faye is hurting. She can be sorry that she had a role, active and passive, no matter how unintentionally, in that. Sorry that she didn't make sure her friend, Faye, got home safely and that someone was making sure she didn't do anything stupid (because the first thing that jumps into someone's mind in this situations is: 'I should have known this would happen'). This would be as much for Dora's healing as Faye's.
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Faye is hurting because Faye refused to help herself and then refused to consider Dora by drinking while working for her. Saying Dora had a 'role' is like saying an individual has a role when they are being mugged. Basically you think Dora should have treated Faye like a child and cater to her when Faye was putting Dora's business in jeopardy. The more I hear about people talking about Faye 'hurting' the more condescending it sounds. She is an individual and treating her otherwise strips away her agency.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: FilliamHMuffman on 30 Jan 2015, 03:37 ---Basically you think Dora should have treated Faye like a child and cater to her when Faye was putting Dora's business in jeopardy.
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No, I'm saying that Dora believes she should have acted more proactively and is feeling guilty as a result. Saying sorry, even if by your objective assessment she hasn't done anything wrong, would be good for her emotional health.
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: FilliamHMuffman on 30 Jan 2015, 03:37 ---Faye is hurting because Faye refused to help herself and then refused to consider Dora by drinking while working for her.
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Genuine question. You ever known any addicts? Any depressives? Or anybody that has problems that, while at the root cause perhaps related to bad decisions they have made, is having issues beyond their control?
In other news:
Global Moderator Comment Oilman, I'm still in two minds over whether to cut that post out entirely or just edit it to remove the more objectionable elements, but regardless what you were saying is absolutely irrelevant to this slice-o'-life comic that we're all discussing, so drop the immigration aspect of this discussion now.
FilliamHMuffman:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 30 Jan 2015, 03:39 ---
--- Quote from: FilliamHMuffman on 30 Jan 2015, 03:37 ---Basically you think Dora should have treated Faye like a child and cater to her when Faye was putting Dora's business in jeopardy.
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No, I'm saying that Dora believes she should have acted more proactively and is feeling guilty as a result. Saying sorry, even if by your objective assessment she hasn't done anything wrong, would be good for her emotional health.
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Sure, i can agree with that, if you put it that way. I thought you were inferring that Dora was partly responsible, not solely that she might feel so.
Oilman:
You may as well remove it, because I can't see how it could be edited without altering the sense materially.
Marten reminds me quite a lot of my elder son at one stage, before reality overtook him and he had to grow up quite a lot, quite quickly. I don't much care for it but it's quite an accurate character in some ways
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