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WCDT: 2882-2886 (26-30 January 2015)
plusorminus:
--- Quote from: Gareth on 30 Jan 2015, 04:12 ---Ten years in real time. In comic time? Way, way less. We'd all do well to remember that while Jeph has been writing this for well over a decade, the characters in the comic have only been associating for like a couple of years. And problems like this are often much more complex a matter than simply having lots of supportive friends.
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While I agree with your latter point, I can't co-sign your former. I and others posted relevant strips where Dora, Marten, Hannelore and even Sven discussed Faye's very real drinking problem and disturbingly close shuffle into alcoholism. So it isn't as if Faye's issue of drinking overmuch just manifested itself during the Angus arc. It has been present a long time, and there had been efforts made to try to help Faye get off the sauce. It was her choice to tell Dr. Corinne that she didn't want to take anti-depressants to do so. So I think that Filliam does have a point that this has been unfolding for quite some time and that Faye had a support system in place, including her therapist, and that people probably relaxed around her when Angus came on the scene and her drinking lessened, but didn't stop completely. Didn't Angus come back from his first interview to a drunken Faye? When Veronica had decided to visit in order to meet Jim? I can't remember if Faye had been drinking or not, but I recall that Angus was not best pleased with her and it ended with Hanners, off screen, screaming at all of them.
Anyway, point. I adore Dora, but I do think she could have handled this aspect a bit better. No, she should not have gone into Faye. She was being respectful of the situation in that regard. And I don't even have too much of a problem of her asking Hanners to be her go-between. I think it's obvious that at least Hannelore and Marten know Faye has been fired, so it's not like Dora was betraying any secrets.
However, I think that telling Hannelore to tell Faye that she wouldn't be "officially fired" until after the insurance kicked in was a bit ... not good. She could have just told Hanners to say that Faye wouldn't have to worry about the hospital visit, it would be covered. I think Dora does feel guilty, but I also think she is a bit angry. She doesn't want to be dealing with losing a friend like this and I think that she felt she had no choice. I honestly feel that Dora internalizes a lot and takes what she perceives to be a lot of shit and then blows up. I never got the sense that she told off any of the girls who befriended her solely to get a chance to bone Sven, or any of the "Alpha-Goths" who Sven said treated her like shit. She certainly didn't stand up to Marten when he balked at moving in with her without Faye, and she sort of hand-waved Faye's abrasive behavior even more so after strip 500. And now she's being painted as the bad guy, at least in her own mind.
I do think this is the last we'll see of Dora for quite some time. Marten will likely avoid CoD for the forseeable, and so will Claire. Hanners may quit. Dale and Marigold can exist in their own arc. Penny and Cosette don't really have any of their own, and I can count on two hands the number of times Tai has been in CoD since she and Dora hooked up. Sad, really, but inevitable, I guess. :-\
Oilman:
I don't believe my son planned any part of what took place over a period of about two years. Changed his life completely, greatly increased his responsibilities, fored him into a completely unforeseen career change.... he's undoubtedly happier now but he had no understanding at all of any of that, until it happened.
Oilman:
oh, and +10 points for Penelope, for being the only one to just get completely fed up with Faye's BS quite some time ago ( when she called Faye out over the commission for the second Espresso-rex)
DillyDolly:
--- Quote from: FilliamHMuffman on 30 Jan 2015, 03:05 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 29 Jan 2015, 23:18 ---
The cure is for her and Faye to talk and say 'sorry' to each other. Unfortunately, neither of them are ready for that yet.
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Dora has nothing to be sorry about. The arguments defending Faye or bashing Dora are borderline comedic at this point.
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Discussing character flaws (including poor choices) is not bashing—even if the characters are beloved. I've only seen a couple people actively bash either of them.
jwhouk:
All right. My US$0.02.
What we have here is an intersection of two damaged persons interacting at a point where anyone who doesn't know background and the persons involved would say was a rational decision.
Faye, with her PTSD and abandonment issues, coupled with the alcohol and at least one possible suicide attempt under her belt, and her recent breakup that triggered all of those within the space of (see AprilArcus).
Dora, with her family issues (Parents who were "not present" in her life, an older brother who she saw as seemingly "savant-like" that she resents to the point of "cutting him out" of her life) and a business that she had allowed, if not encouraged, to run the ragged edge of decency at times.
Faye, it turns out, was the steamer that went over the edge of Niagara Falls. Dora, it turns out, is cutting Faye out of her life in a manner similar to how she decided she would with Sven.
In the end, though, who's making the worse decision - Faye, hitting the bottle so hard she ends up in the hospital, or Dora, cutting everyone of any sort of importance in her life out of it until all she has left is... what?
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