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WCDT: 2882-2886 (26-30 January 2015)
zioninavision:
my headcanon has a car passing playing an appropriate toto song at this point!
kyraeus:
Hate to say it, but Faye pretty much brought all of it on herself. If anything, she should be pretty much happy Dora cares enough to not screw her over for health care. Most employers wouldn't give a damn.
I don't necessarily think Dora's the healthiest person mentally either, but this was about the best you could expect from someone put in this circumstance. As a business owner, you CAN'T have someone drinking at work. You just can't. Not least of the numerous laws I'm sure it breaks, or the ridiculous amount of disrespect for the job that takes... it was a pretty solidly shitty thing for Faye to do to Dora as a friend. You can't ignore that sort of thing, it doesn't go away, it just gets worse.. As shown by the fact that Dora's drinking over the course of the (week, I guess it is?)indeterminate time period has gotten rapidly and decidedly worse than usual.
Maybe it wasn't the best thing to do to Hannelore, either, dropping that kind of duty on someone who still, after all is said and done, has emotional/social issues of her own.
Either which way, Faye's pretty much been heading this way from day 1. The scenes with her family seem to have been nothing but a short reprieve from more of the same old, and it really seems like she's lost any and all of the progress she'd seemed to make. Add to that, given what she's just done, she really doesn't have much room to give Dora ANY crap over how she handles stuff.
All said and done, I've been in Marten's shoes on this one before, where my actions were the only thing between someone and a grave made by their own two hands. It's not a happy place. It's nice to know someone has a second chance because you did what was right, but the fact it was necessary is something that gnaws at me even today, ten plus years later. You can't sit by and watch that kind of thing. Maybe you can come back years later, as I did, and be happy for them if they've 'figured things out' for themselves, but sticking around all too often gets you looked at as the person who will save them from themselves. Nobody wants that full time job.
I hope if she ever does go back, Dora gives her the full treatment for doing this to everyone that cares about her.
osaka:
--- Quote from: Boomslang on 30 Jan 2015, 09:36 ---Really, I just don't. The brother who literally took her in when she had nowhere else to go? A toxic person, who she has to remove from her life. A boyfriend who was completely faithful to her? Obviously she needs to catch him doing something so she can justify a breakup. Her assistant manager, and one of her longest friends she's still in contact with, having trouble *again* with alcoholic tendencies? Fired on the spot for drinking on the job.
--- End quote ---
Thing is, while the first two cases are clear cases of "wtf are you doing Dora Bianchi", the Faye moment is something that anyone in the same situation would have done or should do. For starters, you don't drink on the job. Ever.
Unless your job involves negotiations and multi-million contracts, but that's a whole different story.
Then, even if you went past that idea, Dora summarized her operation pretty well when she said "Just don't show up drunk or high and we'll be fine". If your boss allows you to run a joust with the wheeled chairs while open, when she says that you shouldn't go to work drunk then maybe you shouldn't.
Do I think Dora overreacted on Sven? Of course, big time. Do I think Dora fucked up egregiously with Marten? Marten said it better than I could ever think of saying it. But this time, Dora did what she had to do. Not that it's any less shitty to her friend. But life isn't black or white. Even I know it and I play it on easy mode.
Schmorgluck:
I'm amazed at the amount of ableist shit that has been spouted on this thread.
TheEvilDog:
Making a motion to have the official motto of the forum changed to "Relax, it's only a webcomic."
Everyone is going to bring their own experiences to the thread, but at the end of the day we are talking about a piece of fiction with fictional characters, some of whom are more prone to wacky hijinks and some are more depressive. There is no need to start getting worked up because X said something about Y. It doesn't do anyone any good.
Now, this storyline was always going to bring out a lot of bad memories for people and it was going to draw out a lot of questions from others. So how about we all remember that we have completely different experiences, some of which have helped us how to cope with a given situations, some of us haven't. They will ask questions, they are going to put their foot on it on occasion. I doubt anyone here is actually going out of their way to offend anyone, but if they do accidentally offend, talk to them, explain to them why you felt that was so hurtful.
If they remain wilfully ignorant.....then you can whale on their ass.
Until then, relax, it's only a webcomic.
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