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How QC and webcomics generally relate to the real USA
Oilman:
It's a classic liberal-left response that I actually raised several points, and all the replies jump on the "gay" aspect.
I'd always understood that people with varying degrees of homosexual leanings represented around 12% of the population, which (as has been pointed out) is statistically about right in QC. However the nature of that representation is another matter.
The British writer and media personality Stephen Fry is about as gay as it gets, if he were any more camp, he'd glow in the dark. However it's noteworthy that his portrayal of homosexuality in school and college life (The Liar, in particular) is extremely dark and negative. Evelyn Waugh portrays several gay characters (notably Sir Ralph Brompton) who were clearly drawn from life, and their over-arching characteristic us their untrustworthiness.
Marten is shown as delighted that he now has "three dads" with no suggestion that abandoning his mother us in any way blameworthy. Of course, this is hand-waved in that SHE is a sex-worker of ample income and Marten has left home, but it's a very soecifuc view, don't you think?
hedgie:
*plonk*
Half Empty Coffee Cup:
As to my own response, as I was aiming to quell certain arguments that have been overplayed in all the internet comment cesspools that you may be familiar with, I decided to settle on the part that others had already picked out as what they were going to object to in order to extract from that a general lesson: If you can tell from someone's speech that their position comes from their personal politics, take a deep breath, try to imagine their life story, and maybe not reflexively see each other as enemies. Your other tells weren't relegated to 'the gay thing' exclusively, though. "Losers", for example, becomes a coded word when taken out of schoolyard posturing and into a description of people just beginning to figure out where they're going in life. (READ: Libspeak: classism (Yes, I'm being sardonic.)) As does the word "grotesques" when used to describe people of any stripe. "Sexualized" can come from either side of the isle, of course, depending on whether it's a feminist or conservative Christian uttering the phrase (Or from both sides at once, if a conservative Christian feminist decides to enter the fray)
My real argument is about none of these things, though. You're welcome to your views, and I'm not going to zealously harp on any of these points because trying to convince someone against something they hold as fundamentally true is a waste of time.
What I really want is an awareness of language, here, and the ways in which we accidentally pick fights.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: Oilman ---Marten is shown as delighted that he now has "three dads" with no suggestion that abandoning his mother us in any way blameworthy.
--- End quote ---
Er, what?! Marten's complicated feelings toward his father have come up more than once, and where is there evidence that Henry abandoned Veronica?
(mod)Nothing wrong with political discussions in their place. If this continues drifting into politics I'll move it to Discuss.(/mod)
mustang6172:
Only while reading this did it dawn on me that Robot Jail is pretty much The Bizzarro Matrix.
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