Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
Aimless:
--- Quote from: kerky on 08 Feb 2015, 12:19 ---I personally think panel 3 gets as close as possible to answering "Teh Question That Must Not Be Asked"
Please, and this again goes for the mods and also people who read this forum and who I know have special sensitivity issues around this subject: I am not making a statement how things are supposed to be, or, behold, of right or wrong. I am just giving my personal opinion and reading of Claire´s expression in that panel which is, after all, part of the comic.
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I dunno. If you're saying what I think you're saying, I think you're reading too much into the artwork in that panel. If you mean something else, then maybe :o
explicit:
I mean, he didn't seem completely against the idea (the drag queen part could be cause they were a lot older than him and the Dora page would have been more extreme surprise than anything else).
But people can change over time, Marten didn't have to be okay with it a year ago, he can grow as a person. For instance, I was completely against the idea of dating a transgender person but now it doesn't seem so far-fetched anymore. Because, you know, learning. Learning is great.
TieDyeKat:
--- Quote from: Dalillama on 06 Feb 2015, 14:32 ---
I can't. I tried putting them in one time, and my eye felt like it was on fire for the next several hours, even after I got the damn thing back out.
Regarding Lasik, I personally possess an unholy (and irrational) terror regarding surgeries of literally any sort whatsoever (except dental surgery, for some peculiar reason), even down to such exceedingly minor procedures as pierced earlobes (I am one of two people I know who have no tattoos or piercings of any sort, and the other one is deciding what tattoo to get when he has some spare cash).
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I also lack any piercings or tattoos. I'm very indecisive.
Cochise:
Yeah, I hate puppies.
And like all western narrative, I think a story needs conflict (not suffering, but conflict). So at this moment I'm more interested in Faye than Claire and Marten.
I wish them luck, (I'm not a heartless bastard) but the more catching story now is not about these two.
I can see Sven trying to hit Faye now, and I can't see Faye and Angus patching up what was done. The Coffee of Doom will never be the same.
Aziraphale:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Feb 2015, 13:28 ---
--- Quote from: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 10:03 ---RF: Okay, maybe not fluidity, since you find that "clangy".
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I don't find applying labels to Marten clangy. I find the need to justify his choices by appealing to his childhood clangy. As in, nobody is appealing to Faye's childhood to justify her straightness.
If there's nothing special, on a fundamental level, about being trans--if there's nothing special about being attracted to and romantically engaged with a trans person--then there's no more need to appeal to explanation with regard to Marten's sexuality than there is for Dora's, or Tai's, or Steve's, or Faye's...
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Second point first: I don't think it necessarily needs to be explained (as I mentioned). That's their business, not ours. To your first point... No, you wouldn't look to Faye's childhood for clues about her approach to her sexuality. But if you were talking about her trust issues? Her alcoholism? At least one, maybe two, suicide attempts? Her casual disrespect for boundaries? The (thankfully toned down) violence? It'd be silly not to. Ditto, say, Hanners' issues, or Dora's complicated relationship with her brother and her parents (among other things). In other words, when a character's perception, attitudes and actions are clearly influenced by their past, it can be useful to examine that past and how it colors the present, and that's something that isn't in any way exclusive to sexuality. If we were talking about, say, Marten's taste in beer, then I'd agree with you that it's silly (unless there's some heretofore unexplored link between a spanking and a ten-minute IPA, in which case I take that back). But we're not, and to think that he'd have grown up around the kinds of people he did would have no impact on how he thinks about Claire seems to me a bit short-sighted.
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