Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
DSL:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Feb 2015, 23:07 ---
--- Quote from: Silverzippo ---I will afford people common courtesy, but I will not grant them the luxury of special privilege based on potentially hurt feelings.
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OK, but then you have to figure out what constitutes common courtesy in uncommon situations. Usually it includes not knowingly hurting people's feelings.
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Yes, but it seems as though anyone can claim hurt feelings, and Great Sky Daddy (sorry: "Parental unit") help you if you try to defend -- for example (another forum), the use of "Body English" instead of "Body language," which took a special snowflake "five minutes to process," it was so ... traumatic? I dunno. End result of such processing was to compare me to a female hygiene product, which took me a nanosecond to process (O! the trauma![/sarcasm]) and conclude courtesy was out the window, along with any interest in my part in the conversation.
Global Moderator Comment It's not a rules violation or anything, but I would like to ask that people not risk restarting arguments from other forums on this one. -- IICIH
BenRG:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Feb 2015, 23:15 ---I'm not saying everyone should abandon their labels. I'm not ever sure I agree with the logic. But the conclusion is fascinating. It raises the issue of how much of attraction is representation.
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I think that it's been established (from when Marten was helping Tai with her report on human sexuality) that Marten is at least hypothetically bi. Specifically, he has no particular hang-ups in engaging in a sexual activity with a male body but that he didn't think that he could have sex with a man with stereotypically male personality traits. This has the interesting consequence of meaning that he wouldn't have a problem having sex with a man so long as they guy didn't act like a man.
This really answers the question that is really being asked by most questioners, which is: is Jeph making Marten OOC by having him okay with Claire being potentially pre-op? The answer is thus 'no'. It is established that, whilst Marten is not attracted to those who are behaviourally male (and is thus 'Straight' by most definitions of the word), his definition of 'maleness' does not necessarily run into the details of anatomy. His concept of gender is more based on personality and behaviour rather than body equipment.
Thus, Claire's transition status is irrelevant to Marten. In his eyes, Claire is a woman, irrespective of the details of her body.
bhtooefr:
And then your "behaviourally male" comment then brings a behavioral axis (or maybe more) into the measurement of sexuality, in addition to mechanical axes and the gender axis... sounds like it's time for a DISCUSS thread?
valkygrrl:
--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 10 Feb 2015, 07:35 ---And then your "behaviourally male" comment then brings a behavioral axis (or maybe more) into the measurement of sexuality, in addition to mechanical axes and the gender axis... sounds like it's time for a DISCUSS thread?
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In this case the behavioral is nothing other than gender performance. That's still 2 axises
SubaruStephen:
--- Quote from: AprilArcus on 08 Feb 2015, 20:51 ---Strip 1024 makes it absolutely clear that Marten doesn't have a problem sleeping with penis-havers, he has a problem sleeping with men. In other words, his particular flavor of straightness has nothing to do with genitals and everything to do with gender presentation.
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^This ^
Marten is straight, but he is certainly not narrow.
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