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WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)

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Reaver:
Speaking of poop i've always been curious as to how Hanners handles the bathroom..... :psyduck:

Loki:
With great care.

TheRedMaiden:

--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 06 Feb 2015, 08:15 ---There's also Peter Bianchi, and his dismissal of Dora's bisexuality as a phase... not actually gender type discrimination, but...

And, Meena had some off-screen discrimination as well, for racial discrimination.

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I'm skipping like four pages of posts to phone in on this one, but I'd also like to point out Penelope's immediate belittlement of Wil's spiritual views, and her tirade in the comic following against anyone and anything religious. It's not gender/ethnic/AI discrimination, but it's still blatant hate/unacceptance of a group of people. Hatred does exist in this comic, and in some instances within the main characters (like Penelope). We just don't get the focus on them all the time because I don't think it quite fits Jeph's purpose in the comic to have them any other time than when he specifically wants to have the conversation about people who hate rather than people who accept.

Also, I really hate how much the term "Mary Sue" is thrown around. Not speaking specifically about this forum, but it seems to be rampant IRL about any character, which baffles me because I honestly don't see what's so bland about most of the characters it's applied to. It makes perfect sense to me that Marten is immediately accepting of Claire. Afterall, look at the people who raised him. His mother was open about her career and never tried to hide it as something particularly taboo to Marten (see little Marten holding a dildo pic). And I can't remember when Marten said his father came out, but it was either early enough in his life that it taught him that's just how life works, or he had no reason to see it as particularly unusual because of exposure to other things like his mom's career. I'd like in particular to point out the scene at his dad's wedding where Mrs. Reed was doing upskirt photos for her friend and Marten responded to being told to "be a good boy and look away" with an annoyed "Yes, mom," not necessarily embarrassed by his mother, but more childlike annoyance at something that was routine for him as a child. Marten was introduced to sexuality in a very different, unconventional way than most children are, so for him to be appalled by Claire rather than accepting seems like it would be more out of character for me. He was raised in a way that taught sexuality to be something very, very diverse, and coupled with the full knowledge of Claire's transition before even entering a relationship with her, there's absolutely no reason this part of the comic should have gone any differently. Him looking at her face rather than her body isn't an oversight, it's deliberate and moreover it's important because it's irrelevant to Marten, because he already knew about her and still entered the relationship because of who Claire is. He already thought Claire was beautiful and doesn't need to look at the rest of her body because nothing physical is going to change how he feels about the person inside of it.

HeavyP:
Aish.  I think I'm going to have to stop reading the forums for a while, and I'm going to try to remember to make that a precedent when major plot events happen.

For what it's worth, I read this webcomic (and most of the thirty-odd others on my bookmarks tab) as a counter to reality.  It's a silly little story about friends doing their best to live their lives and be happy.  There are good and bad moments, but I don't argue when story lines are "unrealistic."  I like my media (books, movies, games, etc) with happy endings for the same reason.  It's not that I don't like to be "challenged" or that I can't "handle" serious, darker work, it's that I don't WANT to.  The world we live in is a maelstrom of injustice, hate, and general horror, with a few times and people that stand opposite that as bright islands in a black ocean. 

They're not my characters, it's not my story, and as one of an endless mob of readers, I have no more rights than anyone else.  That being admitted, I'm still going to say this: don't wish evil upon these happy figments of one man's imagination.  If you want to smile, then join me in cheering on our laid-back musician and the little red haired librarian in their modern fairy tale.  If you want darkness and grit, open your door and walk outside - you'll find more than enough of it in our real world.

Omega Entity:

--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 07 Feb 2015, 06:52 ---ok, from my perspective, as one of the people where the sugary Marten/Claire strips did nothing for them, it wasn't about drama, or a need for the characters to suffer, or anything like that. It simply is that I like to have a strip that interests me in some way. Either a joke, plot progression, something moving.

Jephs depiction of Marten and Claire's first date just felt like a repeat of the same strip, over and over, with small changes.

I've liked the last two strips because they are something DIFFERENT, something interesting. When Marten asked Claire out, that was interesting.

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I think it was the 'Ice cream kisses!' comic that made me roll my eyes so hard that I nearly gave my optic nerves torsion damage. It seemed... ridiculously juvenile, more in line with what a junior high relationship would be. Then again, I despise PDAs (they weird me out, big time), and it's likely a side effect of me being well on my way to being an old cat lady.

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