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WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: cesium133 on 07 Feb 2015, 15:14 ---This thread has no nose!
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OK, I'll do the traditional thing.
"No nose? Then how does it smell?"
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: bucky_2300 on 08 Feb 2015, 00:20 ---I mean, the guy's been presented as a straight man (as in the archetype) and a straight man (as in the sexuality) for the entirety of the comic, and now he's suddenly down with dating a transgendered person
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CLANG!
See http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Drop+a+clanger
--- Quote ---To say something innocent in an unfortunate context that causes it to become hurtful or otherwise controversial.
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Just to explain. He's straight. He's now dating... (drum roll).... a girl.
A girl who happens to be trans. Also straight too, she's attracted to boys.
Now please remember it's not actually possible to die of embarassment. Moreover, everyone here is human, so makes mistakes too. Slack will be cut, because that's what we do here. Be kind to one another, as I'm sure you've noticed.
TinPenguin:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 07 Feb 2015, 15:20 ---A story can't be good unless something blows up.
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Which is why Michael Bay is recognised as the greatest storyteller of our age.
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: HeavyP on 07 Feb 2015, 09:36 ---It's not that I don't like to be "challenged" or that I can't "handle" serious, darker work, it's that I don't WANT to. The world we live in is a maelstrom of injustice, hate, and general horror, with a few times and people that stand opposite that as bright islands in a black ocean.
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Jeph's handled that - but in another context, and with another character.
It's an archepelago. And sea levels are dropping. Now I better get back to the pumps....
ReindeerFlotilla:
--- Quote from: bucky_2300 on 08 Feb 2015, 00:20 ---Could Marten get any more empty as a character? I mean, the guy's been presented as a straight man (as in the archetype) and a straight man (as in the sexuality) for the entirety of the comic, and now he's suddenly down with dating a transgendered person, which happens to come right around the time that trans* issues are gaining real traction in the social justice community? Come on. I've dated a trans*person in the past, and the first time we got naked, it was treated with much more dignity and care than it was given here. "You're beautiful"? I'll take Things That a 16 Year Old Says When Losing His Virginity for $200, Alex. This is just empty pandering.
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Also, this is wrong. As in counter factual. As in this description of Marten is not accurate.
"Straight" is a construct. What defines straight really depends on who you ask. I'm sure there's a bi person somewhere who finds the application of that fact terribly hypocritical. So, what straight means to Marten is up to... Marten. (Well, Jeph. But I repeat myself.)
I said elsewhere that Friday's strip would imply whatever the reader wanted it to imply. You jumped right to implication. The mechanics of whatever they get up to was not implied by Jeph. That something "not straight by your definition" might be going down is your headcanon. Nothing in the strip demands it.
Whatever's going down can be straight by whatever definition Marten uses. (As an aside, I found this comment no less clangy than those implying Marten might be fluid because of his mom's job. I didn't just make up this stuff about the artifice of straight for this comment, so the idea that Marten's personal view on the matter needs a justification is kind of a drop... on the head.)
Oh, and all that pontification up there isn't why you are wrong. This is.
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 08 Feb 2015, 01:58 ---
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 07 Feb 2015, 15:20 ---A story can't be good unless something blows up.
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Which is why Michael Bay is recognised as the greatest storyteller of our age.
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Metaphor is apparently a dying art.
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