Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2897 - 2901 (16-20 February 2015)
AprilArcus:
To be fair I found Dale and Marigold's relationship to be equally insufferable when it was commanding panel time.
God forbid we ever see Sven or Angus again. That would require enduring some degree of discomfort, conflict and narrative momentum.
DrClef:
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--- Quote from: DrClef on 19 Feb 2015, 00:32 ---Have some actual conversations instead of long-winded monologues about how perfect the relationship is and how Claire might be worried but they are sure there will be no problems whatsoever and everything is wonderful and hunky dory and bleh.
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You and I must use different definitions of what a monologue is.
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An entire comic consisting of a character talking at length in response to a short question? Yeah, I call that a monologue.
snarkyone:
--- Quote from: DrClef on 19 Feb 2015, 00:32 ---I don't want drama. I like Claire and Marten being a stable couple. I just want them to act like a pair of adults instead of a couple of starry eyed teenagers. Have some actual conversations instead of long-winded monologues about how perfect the relationship is and how Claire might be worried but they are sure there will be no problems whatsoever and everything is wonderful and hunky dory and bleh. Talk like human beings instead of bad fanfic writers deciding that the best way to show what a character is thinking is to have them explain, at length, exactly what their emotions are.
I mean, compare this to the other couple whose relationship quickly became sexual after the young woman walked out of her bedroom to find her love interest with a plate of pancakes in the kitchen. Dale and Marigold didn't go into long-winded rants about how they've put aside their differences and worked past their problems and were now friends and lovers. Dale just needed to cook some pancakes and get dragged off to bed by Marigold.
I guess that's the crux of my problem. Jeph has spent a lot of time TELLING us that Claire and Marten are a perfect couple, but they have DONE precious little to show that.
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Bear in mind, we've had a lot more time to process their relationship and develop our own hopes for what it could be. In their time it's been what? Less than a week? I think two people talking about their feelings and thoughts like this are why we have higher hopes for their relationship. And likely a reason why they might have a healthy one. Just because they aren't speaking in a manner that you'd expect or desire doesn't mean they aren't being adult about it. Reflection is a sign of reason, and there is a lot of that, perhaps more than you like. Which is fine of course, but also consider that they both have said they just want to see where things take them. And expressing their nervousness through monologues while a little removed from what we might normally experience, seems to me an abrupt and poignant way to deliver the internal thought process each of them have, while also allowing that process to contribute to them being so open with each other. I still urge patience. Which doesn't always mean how long we wait, but what we do and how we handle the wait. :)
Half Empty Coffee Cup:
--- Quote from: snarkyone on 19 Feb 2015, 00:41 --- I still urge patience. Which doesn't always mean how long we wait, but what we do and how we handle the wait. :)
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This line alone should be put somewhere where everyone could see it.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: DrClef on 19 Feb 2015, 00:38 ---An entire comic consisting of a character talking at length in response to a short question? Yeah, I call that a monologue.
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Two successive comics in which they each talk to the other - already a dialogue. And bear in mind that each of those probably represents less than a minute of comic time.
The mistake is seeing each strip as a story in miniature - it isn't, it is one of a set that builds into a story. That's the way this comic works.
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