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WCDT 2897 - 2901 (16-20 February 2015)
TheCallMeFez:
--- Quote from: snarkyone on 20 Feb 2015, 09:03 ---Free Arrakis? You said completely different....
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ReindeerFlotilla:
The basis for astrology and possession by evil spirits is ancient. Also incredibly stupid.
I disagree with the rule about discussion of trans pants on the basis that the taboo involved is stupid, and contributes to the problem (among many other problems). I don't argue that point on the basis that people don't do discussions of everyone else's pants, thus creating a situation where their questions deny the humanity of the trans people.
Which is what all of this stuff is, at the bottom level. Call it tribalism or a classification compulsion but it is--ultimately--an easy tool to make a human or group of humans into a thing or things.
Because you don't have to feel bad when you fuck up a thing.
mvdwege:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 19 Feb 2015, 20:18 ---That isn't the point, and I'm not holding it against you. The point is, there's literally nothing you could have said there that someone like me couldn't have found offensive. The only way to win is not to play. Except, if you refuse to play, everyone loses. So maybe, just maybe, it is incumbent upon me, as the oppressed party, to not give you a hard time for failing to beat the Kobayashi Maru.
Just sayin'
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Maybe another point is that sometimes you will say something that offends someone else. If you then get "Hey, that offended me", you can, instead of going all defensive, just apologise, and only then start asking what caused the offence and why.
We are none of us mind-readers. We will cause offence every now and then. Just see any hints that we did as a heads-up, a minor correction, instead of a personal attack, and a reasonable discussion is possible.
I personally like to keep things implicit, I hate long disclaimers up front. Unfortunately that means that I occasionally get called on a possible reading I didn't mean to imply. In which case I am glad to provide a more explicit reading of what I meant ex post facto, and an apology for using words that can be read wrong.
ReindeerFlotilla:
Salient point, but completely off the topic, which was that perhaps the people who are quick to pile on those who don't handle the social justice jargon well should back off a bit, and not be upset when the n00bs inevitably fail to beat the no win situation.
Sometimes you're going to trip up, and say something you shouldn't say. Sometimes you're going to trip up and say something that can be easily taken as something else. In those situations, you do have to own the failure. But sometimes, especially with the jargon, failure is the only option.
It's cruel, IMO, to beat on people for that. Being oppressed doesn't give license to be cruel. Cruelty begets cruelty, until, think this subject, the conflict loses all connection to what started it.
Emperor Norton:
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--- Quote from: no one special on 20 Feb 2015, 07:58 ---Why not just put up a sticky? That way, people can refer to that.
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Noticing the stickies on the board: So EASY a caveman could do it.
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I run a rather large forum for work. Among the staff we have a joke about stickies: The fastest way to make sure noone reads something.
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