Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2897 - 2901 (16-20 February 2015)
DrClef:
--- Quote from: DrClef on 20 Feb 2015, 20:27 ---There were a lot of justifications for the Japanese Internment. A lot of which get put in another light, when you consider that in Hawaii (the only state to actually GET attacked by Japan)*, only 1% of the Japanese-American population were imprisoned, compared to practically all of them in California.
Of course, in Hawaii, the Japanese-American population were a major part of the workforce. Interning all of them would pretty much have crippled the Hawaiian agricultural industry. And the Hawaiian internees were all community leaders and such.
It's interesting to note what happened to the entire Japanese-American culture in Hawaii as a result. It practically disappeared.
. . . all of this has little to nothing to do with the strip, so I'll end it here. Suffice to say that it's not exactly America's finest hour.
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*Except Alaska.
Dalillama:
--- Quote from: Half Empty Coffee Cup ---
Of course, neither Hawaii nor Alaska were states at the time, anyway...
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Which makes Oregon the only actual state to be attacked. (A submarine carried a small plane off the coast; the plane then dropped a fire bomb in the Oregon rainforest, which caused a very minor forest fire)
Is it cold in here?:
BenRG, please start a comic so I can read it every day.
Boomslang:
--- Quote from: Dalillama on 20 Feb 2015, 23:22 ---
--- Quote from: Half Empty Coffee Cup ---
Of course, neither Hawaii nor Alaska were states at the time, anyway...
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Which makes Oregon the only actual state to be attacked. (A submarine carried a small plane off the coast; the plane then dropped a fire bomb in the Oregon rainforest, which caused a very minor forest fire)
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As an Oregonian, that story gets very incredulous responses every time I bring it up. Even in Oregon. Despite the articles even a cursory google search turns up.
But it's not that unreasonable- Oregon has always been a huge supplier of timber to the US. And during WW2, timber was a major strategic material. Destroying the huge quantities of pine and douglas fir flowing from the hinterlands to the shipyards in Washington and California could have made a large difference if it was successful. And it isn't as though the other major war resources, oil or steel or personnel, could have been attacked at the time.
I think, short of the capitulation of the US, the course of the war was more or less certain after Pearl Harbor, but the time frame was extremely flexible and could have swerved in either direction depending on events.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Boomslang on 21 Feb 2015, 02:00 ---I think, short of the capitulation of the US, the course of the war was more or less certain after Pearl Harbor, but the time frame was extremely flexible and could have swerved in either direction depending on events.
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I don't think that the Imperial Japanese ever had any intention to invade the continental US. From the start, Yammamoto's war plan seems to have been to destroy the Pacific Fleet as an effective fighting force. He hoped that, if Japan made it impossible for the United States to project military force there, it would give up its own territorial claims in the Western Pacific (at least in the short term) and sue for peace.
That plan died with two key strategic failures:
* The failure to destroy the Pacific Fleet's carriers and shore facilities in Hawaii;
* The defeat at Midway.Although the Japanese Navy held its own for a year or so after Midway, the failure to secure control of the Western Pacific meant that they had no choice but to continue to fight a two-front war against the US in the Pacific and British Commonwealth forces in East Asia and Oceania. This was unsustainable and it was only a matter of time before attrition and the US's industrial capacity wore down Japan's earlier strategic, technical and tactical advantages.
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