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Dr. Clairetenlove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Squee

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ReindeerFlotilla:
He did cut to the heart of the matter. That he got right on that might foil anyone else's chances at a sharp pun.

ASB84:

--- Quote from: eschaton on 19 Feb 2015, 07:21 ---I'm sorry, but asking people to feel the squee is like asking someone to just sit back and enjoy a type of music they don't care for (in my example, Jazz). 

You can't tell someone to feel something, either they do or they don't.  Claire and Marten, as they have acted since the scritch, do absolutely nothing for my heart.  I say this despite Jeph having written several relationship arcs which did actually touch upon things I felt in my own romantic life.  I also say this despite identifying with Marten as a character quite a bit, and liking Claire in the buildup.  I find their interactions alternatively boring and nauseating, and I find nothing cute about it.

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This.

Honestly, this thread just feels like an attempt to say to everyone who isn't loving everything about Claire and Marten so far "you're absolutely wrong, this is fantastic and you should like it, no ifs or buts, quit complaining and enjoy", but in the nicest way possible. And even when expressed in the nicest way possible, it still comes across as a tad condescending.

ReindeerFlotilla:
I just looked over the relationship, and I gotta say, there's not a lot of basis for suggesting either one of them has changed much.

Not that I expect facts to change opinions or anything. It probably just seems like they've changed because They spend a lot of time smiling at each other like idiots.

I think the issues everyone thinks exist as personality change are really just the change in writing style. In trying to be the comic with too few word, QC is often spreading an old comic's worth of interaction over three days. This is causing two issues: First,  the density of quirks per comic is down 67%. Second, the density of punchlines per comic has remained almost constant. The combination of these thing means that there are fewer digressions.

I might, if inspired, do a calculation to compare their dialogue before and after the de-wording later today. If time permits. I suspect it will prove enlightening.

Khazgar:
As the OP I thought I would weigh in once more before this thread gets swamped under by the events of the coming week's comics.

My arguments (apart from the last one, which I feel quite passionate about) were certainly not meant to be taken seriously, and especially if you got the reference from the thread title (google Peter Sellars and 1964 should you have missed it) I would hope that you understood that my remarks were firmly tongue-in-cheek.

Everyone should have a say and all opinions should be respected, but I think the Claire and Marten argument has turned into a cat lovers vs. dog lovers debate - each side is absolutely convinced that their furry friends are the best pet, they all have thoussands of arguments why this is so and nobody is going to change their opinion.

If you don't like Claire and Marten much or had enough of their relationship then all the squeeing must have been terribly irritating - and all of the people criticising the arc on the other side seems to have been annoying the fans quite a lot.

If I may be so bold, I would suggest a truce. Everyone respects the other's opinion, without trying to shove their own down anyone's face, and we all try to tone down a bit.

Although I truly do hope we have a different topic this week, Claire and Marten will certainly be back as it looks as if they are going to be around as a couple for a good while. Maybe we could all look away when they do something cute and do our squeeing and criticism in private - at least in part?

Looking forward to continuing constructive exchanges of opinion on here - now on to the next topic!

Carl-E:

--- Quote from: Endellion on 21 Feb 2015, 10:40 ---It's her way to express her rapier wit.

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Sorry, every time I hear this all I can think is "Rape yer own damn wit!" 




I'lll show myself out, thanks. 

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