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"All Zen-Contented": Who is Marten Reed?
valkygrrl:
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No, I haven't. Would that be a typical thing for them to do?
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Eh... people are individuals of course but there are cultural... memes? Saying something just to see a straight boy squirm isn't unheard of.
Probably better to let April talk about that one though, my experience is very peripheral, having spent time socially with individuals in friend of a friend type situation, only enough to get a feel not a deep understanding. My own meatspace trans friends are all post-ops (now) so that's the trans faction whose attitudes and history I know best, having made my first trans (that I know of) friend in 1997. Add in some volunteer work with Lambda Legal in the early oughties (Sodomy then some marriage equity were the main focus at the time with some HIV related stuff and the ever present employment discrimination-adoption-child custody trifecta) and you get a gradient across queer culture of this I've been in the middle of, this I know well, this I know some, this I've been exposed to, this just plain perplexes me. Drag comes between know some and been exposed too and falls closer to the exposed side.
Kugai:
Vell, Marten's just zis guy, you know
rschill:
--- Quote from: AprilArcus on 12 Apr 2015, 10:44 ---
--- Quote from: Jab on 11 Apr 2015, 05:46 ---Honest question: I can get why it's impolite to describe a trans-woman that way, but why a drag queen?
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Good question, with a few answers.
1. "Dude" isn't an unloaded term for a man, it is a term for a masculine man engaged in dude culture. I know plenty of men who are definitely 100% men but who would bristle at being described as "dude" or "bro". While it's possible for me to imagine a drag queen who has a "dudely" affect off stage, that is at odds with the kind of drag queen who would go to a friend's house party en femme.
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It used to be pretty close to masculine/neutral for a while. 15 years ago the younger women around my social circles were calling each other that. Before that, it seemed to have more of a stoner connotation.
happyninja42:
--- Quote from: AprilArcus on 12 Apr 2015, 10:44 ---
--- Quote from: Jab on 11 Apr 2015, 05:46 ---Honest question: I can get why it's impolite to describe a trans-woman that way, but why a drag queen?
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Good question, with a few answers.
1. "Dude" isn't an unloaded term for a man, it is a term for a masculine man engaged in dude culture. I know plenty of men who are definitely 100% men but who would bristle at being described as "dude" or "bro". While it's possible for me to imagine a drag queen who has a "dudely" affect off stage, that is at odds with the kind of drag queen who would go to a friend's house party en femme.
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It might be a loaded term for men in your circle of interaction, but you aren't representative of the entire human condition. The followers of Dudeism would find your definition of the word highly incorrect, and probably offensive. The fact that the nerd culture has created the term "dudebro", and attached a negative connotation to it, doesn't exclude the fact that plenty of people use it in a neutral way. Words mean different things to different people.
"The Dude abides."
Gladstone:
Yes, April, shame on you for not considering the feelings of fans of The Big Lebowski.
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