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WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
ASB84:
Count me in as someone who's glad to see a complication with Dora and Tai. And no, not because I hate happiness, or that I want nothing but drama, but narrative requires some form of conflict or complication, and we're picking up some dangling plot threads.
As far as Dora's attitude towards Sven and Faye are concerned, I haven't changed my mind. I think she went overboard with Sven, but have no problems with the way she handled the situation with Faye. To her point about her hand being forced, I think that's true of Faye, but not Sven. Faye messed up, and Dora was forced to make a tough decision. Not so much when it comes to Sven, though it doesn't help that his character was dumbed down a bit, seemingly to make a point about entitlement. A valid point mind you, but it did come at the expense of some established characteristics.
As for her reaction to Tai...I'm kind of in two minds. Dora obviously isn't handling her current situation well and snapping at Tai is her fault...mostly, sort of. I also think that Tai didn't exactly choose the best tact to broach the subject, pushing Dora's buttons in the process and inadvertently opening some fresh wounds. It's not necessarily a bad thing that she forced the issue, but that approach can backfire spectacularly. Dora wasn't right here, but she was provoked, albeit with good intentions.
Finally, I love the beat panel and the punchline; in my head, Dora is saying that very dryly and deadpan.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 Mar 2015, 20:50 ---Dora completely ignored Tai's feelings and didn't even seem to realize they existed.
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Agreed, though I think Tai is doing the same thing, to a certain extent.
Kugai:
I think the next person on the Emotional Crash Train will be Dora.
Don't know why, but I just get the feeling that things are coming to a head with her as well.
Aziraphale:
--- Quote from: valkygrrl on 03 Mar 2015, 20:39 ---Mmm yummy Naan.
I don't know, but not denial. She's not pretending nothing happened, she's not refusing to acknowledge she made a choice, she's not even refusing to deal with problems. She's actively deciding that there are things she should not have to deal with. Specifically, other people's shit.
You've never walked away rather than get dragged down?
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I've walked away before, but I'm not in the habit of burning bridges. I understand not everybody has the same pain threshold (and I also know mine's sometimes higher than perhaps it should be), but I guess the way I look at it, if someone's important enough to me that they're in my life to begin with -- and here I'm talking friends and close family -- I'd probably tread more carefully than she's done, even if (when) I've decided I needed some distance.
I think that Omega gets at something that was nagging at me as well:
--- Quote from: Omega Entity on 03 Mar 2015, 20:40 ---With Dora, I think her continuingly pushing people who she feels undermine her authority is all tied into her control issues. Think about it. Sven seems to constantly cross the line where it comes to Dora and how she thinks he should behave. Faye crossed the line in regards to the employee-employer relationship, disrespecting the rules (and Dora) by her actions.
She feels out of control where it comes to them. However, by her actively pushing them away, it puts her in control of the situation in her mind, and forces -them- to come to -her- if they want to beg forgiveness from her.
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Sven and Faye (the latter to a lesser extent) have done some really assholeish things. No argument there. But Dora's actions seem like those of someone who's been asked, or asked themselves, which is more important: control, or people. There's a similar dynamic there with Hannelore, at least as I read it. But both of them, faced with similar fears (and a massive overlay of anxiety issues and OCD on Hanners' part), come to drastically different conclusions: Dora maintains control, even if it means pushing away people who've meant a great deal to her, whereas Hanners is always -- albeit often tentatively -- reaching out to people, even though you know that on some level you know the control would be more comfortable, and surrendering that often freaks her out.
And think about how different their relationships are as a result; Dora stands to alienate people who love her because they disappoint her because she sets up situations and expectations where they're almost certain to disappoint, while Hanners has tended to draw people like moths to a flame because she generally takes people -- even people like her mother, who's no prizewinner -- as she finds them. Consciously or not, they seek out certain people and experiences that reinforce exactly what they were looking for, and are either terribly disappointed (Dora) or pleased (Hanners) by the results. Neither, however, should be surprised.
Of course, all of the preceding is colored by my own life and experiences; yours, and the interpretation that results, may vary.
Elder Sign:
Ah, Dora. I guess we can always count on her to shoot herself in the proverbial foot, even after making a logical choice.
First Faye/Angus, now maybe Dora/Tai ... is it just me, or is Jeph actively wrecking existing relationships in order to devote yet more squeetime (squeentime? :-P) to Claire/Marten?
Warning - while you were typing a new and probably better-reasoned reply was posted. You may wish to conform better to local prevailing opinion in your first post.
Aziraphale:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 03 Mar 2015, 21:10 ---I think the next person on the Emotional Crash Train will be Dora.
Don't know why, but I just get the feeling that things are coming to a head with her as well.
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Looks it; everything we've seen of her in her last several appearances points to that, and today's strip is either the beginning of things coming to a head, or yet another time that the Drama Genie gets corked back in the bottle, only to reappear -- larger and more imposing -- later.
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