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WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)

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Aziraphale:
I think it's more likely a way to set up more developments rather than a relationship-ender. I can't think of a single instance where there was one falling out that ended everything; any arcs I can think of (Dora/Marten, Dora/Faye, Faye/Angus, even Marten/Padma) built to a split.

Not that this is necessarily headed for a split. The reason I think it could be, though, is that Jeph tends to have two "modes" when it comes to writing relationships: they're either stable, and get backgrounded (Penelope/Wil, Steve/Cosette, Dale/Marigold), or there's a breadcrumb trail of minor annoyances that build to bigger stuff that leads to breakups (Marten/Dora, Faye/Angus, Marten/Padma to a degree*), with outliers like Dora and Jim's relationship.

*I know that Padma and Marten's relationship had an expiration date on the carton from day one, but it's not as though it had to end the way it did; Marten's petulance toward the end tipped the balance in a bittersweet parting decidedly toward bitter. And yes, I'm well aware that someone's going to say I hate Marten now. :P

aphanisis81:

--- Quote from: Aziraphale on 06 Mar 2015, 10:58 ---I think it's more likely a way to set up more developments rather than a relationship-ender. I can't think of a single instance where there was one falling out that ended everything; any arcs I can think of (Dora/Marten, Dora/Faye, Faye/Angus, even Marten/Padma) built to a split.

Not that this is necessarily headed for a split. The reason I think it could be, though, is that Jeph tends to have two "modes" when it comes to writing relationships: they're either stable, and get backgrounded (Penelope/Wil, Steve/Cosette, Dale/Marigold), or there's a breadcrumb trail of minor annoyances that build to bigger stuff that leads to breakups (Marten/Dora, Faye/Angus, Marten/Padma to a degree*), with outliers like Dora and Jim's relationship.

*I know that Padma and Marten's relationship had an expiration date on the carton from day one, but it's not as though it had to end the way it did; Marten's petulance toward the end tipped the balance in a bittersweet parting decidedly toward bitter. And yes, I'm well aware that someone's going to say I hate Marten now. :P

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Marten-hater!!! There, I beat them to the punch.

I don't think or hope that Tai and Dora will break up either, I just think their running into a rough patch would, on the one hand, be interesting; but on the other, I'm not sure we've seen them together enough to really have context for a conflict.

I'm conflicted about how Marten left it with Padma. I actually feel like that was a big step for him in terms of feeling like les of a doormat, and we really only have Faye's speculation to support the common reading that she Padma was pushing him away because she was into him, or whatever it is she summarized it as...I dunno.

BenRG:
FWIW, I think that confronting a 'rough patch' and having to fight for their relationship would be a nice way to have some Tai and Dora character moments and character growth. If this goes anywhere, I'm hoping that Jeph takes it there.

One line of dialogue we could see (from Marten or Faye or maybe even Sven) would be someone asking Dora: "Do you really want to lose what you have with Tai?"

Aziraphale:
I think the conflict, such as it is, hasn't been given a huge setup; it's been more like a trail of breadcrumbs. Little throwaway things, small omissions...

And depending on where the wakeup call comes from, it could be an eye-opener for Dora not just in her relationship with Tai, but with a handful of other people as well.

Shadic:
Man, I really wish Marigold was a more interesting character. Her "schtick" has been the same few jokes since her character initially settled, and I feel like arcs that focus on her are significantly less interesting as a result.

I'm not a huge fan of Hanners either, but she's grown significantly as a person (even after the early-comic weirdness), and she's significantly more likeable as a person. It makes sense that the two of them would be friends, but I can't remember the last time I've enjoyed a comic solely with the two of them.  :psyduck:

(Also I think Hanners was more interesting as Hannelore when she was apparently on some crazy anti-anxiety meds and first met Marten.)

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