Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDT March 2015
Schwungrad:
Over time, Gavia's consciousness will meld with her nanotech, as the biological parts of her body decay, and she will become a nightwalker too, gazing at the moon every night, waiting for an answer from the praeses...
Alice's remark about nanotech "working differently" in earlier times might mean that AI were abolished, possibly after a failed robot rebellion or a Butlerian Jihad - or maybe the praesides are the last remaining AIs who keep their nature secret.
Half Empty Coffee Cup:
--- Quote from: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 26 Mar 2015, 20:01 ---So, this seems like it is Earth. And an Earth where AI apparently didn't appear, or was suppressed at some point, given that Gavia thinks intelligent machine are impossible.
Of course it could be Earth's moon, but not Earth. And the Walker is waiting for a signal from Moonbase Alpha.
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Let's unpack what Gavia really meant. She didn't say that AI was impossible, she said that the Walker being intelligent was impossible. It could be for other reasons: constraints on complexity imposed by limited space on the nanomachines, the rise of new machine intelligences may be suppressed by the Praeses (which our best guess seems to indicate are AIs themselves), or perhaps just an unwillingness to entertain the notion that an intelligent entity would do nothing other than come out at night to gawk at the Moon.
Kugai:
"For the World is hollow and I have touched the sky!"
BenRG:
Wow! Lots of world-building in this strip! I'll have to think about it later on!
There is a strong implication that this planet is abandoned and has secrets - technology that still functions but no longer has a purpose because humanity (or at least the part of it that went 'up') moved on and no longer needs it.
Is Alice talking about herself? It's the strongest indication yet that she's an android who survived the end of the civilisation that created her but is still trying to fulfill her purpose of 'serve and protect '. Perhaps, over the millennia, she has been able to outgrow her safeguards, hence her ability to try to kill Gavia. Or, maybe, her creators never included them, trusting in their intelligence that their creations were too perfect to rebel.
--- Quote from: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 26 Mar 2015, 20:01 ---So, this seems like it is Earth. And an Earth where AI apparently didn't appear, or was suppressed at some point, given that Gavia thinks intelligent machine are impossible.
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I'm wondering if there was a 'grey goo plague' incident that has led to modern nanotech having very strict safeguards but older iterations, like the Walker's components, don't have them and can operate autonomously. As for AI in general, maybe they did happen but have hidden themselves in other guises. It's easy to hide your nature when you are the guide of the entire civilisation.
Now... Do Ardent and Gavia come from a settlement on the Moon?
Thrudd:
Something about the last panel bugged me when I first saw it and still bugs me.
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Then it clicked - the image has an new plains area if and only if it was our moon (click to show/hide)
At least it isn't this guy on close up (click to show/hide)If willis was involved then I could totally see this happening
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