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WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Reaver on 09 Mar 2015, 03:11 ---Also just because you are someone's friend doesn't mean you HAVE to always deal with ALL of their issues
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Strawman; no-one is even suggesting that he deal with all of her issues - just this one.
Reaver:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 09 Mar 2015, 03:16 ---
--- Quote from: Reaver on 09 Mar 2015, 03:11 ---Also just because you are someone's friend doesn't mean you HAVE to always deal with ALL of their issues
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Strawman; no-one is even suggesting that he deal with all of her issues - just this one.
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He's already dealing with Faye's issues, He doesn't need to involve himself in this pit fall! The last time he danced this dance, he got kicked in the balls.
McH:
I'm with Marten here. He's overall a cool guy but even chill guys have limits, and dealing with DoradramaTM is definitely an excusable: "Been there, done that.. nope". As for his way of responding being dickish? Yeah. A little. But he's human, and Tai started off in what seemed to be a tirade about his ex that she wasn't going to warn him about. So, in terms of acting perfect, that ship kind of sailed right then and there.
--- Quote from: BenRG on 09 Mar 2015, 03:16 ---Strawman; no-one is even suggesting that he deal with all of her issues - just this one.
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Well, this is the one he especially isn't going to deal with, apparently.
Wildroses:
You know, if my boss had started complaining about their relationship problems with a current friend and ex-girlfriend who also recently (and justifiably) fired my best friend and is still the boss of another close friend, I think I'd have backed away too.
There is no way for Marten to win here. If he tries to be sympathetic to Dora he risks his boss being mad at him for not appreciating her point of view. If he tries to be sympathetic to Tai, he risks angering her anyway as she might be angry at him for hating on Dora whom she still loves despite their argument, or he risks it getting back to Dora later; either because Tai would say to Dora "Marten was so right about you!" or as a passing remark unwisely made by Tai who wouldn't think it a big deal after they have reconciled (Yes, that is likely. Believe me, it happens all the time in my office). And because Dora is someone he sees a lot of and is close to a lot of his friends, an angry Dora could have serious social consequences for Marten.
It is, of course possible for Marten to try be sympathetic to both, but this requires great verbal skills, something Marten doesn't have, especially when he is put on the spot. Remember the speech he gave at his Dad's wedding?
No, Marten's best course of action is to back silently away.
ReindeerFlotilla:
--- Quote from: Wildroses on 09 Mar 2015, 03:44 ---You know, if my boss had started complaining about their relationship problems with a current friend and ex-girlfriend who also recently (and justifiably) fired my best friend and is still the boss of another close friend, I think I'd have backed away too.
...and all that followed...
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This. So much this.
I cannot help but feel that I called it :Þ
Heh. I think this could have been another sign of character growth for Marten. Sometimes you gotta be the "bad guy" or at least the guy who is not actively going above and beyond. For your own good, if nothing else.
Marten does tend to play the support role at his own expense.
OTOH, I think it is a sight gag, and a good one at that. And a nice reminder that QC isn't reality and characters often do break the rules of polite socialization for the funny. I expect We will shortly find Marten either being disapproved of by Claire or threading his way through explaining the deal to Tai.
OR we could see him doing the smart thing and sending in a "disinterested" third party. Like Claire!
Then we could have a lively debate about whether Tai and Claire talking about Dora passes the Bechdel Test and--if it does--is it feminist (yes and yes, of course, but that's because I said so and I'm always right).
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