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WCDT 2927-2931 (30 March to 3 April 2015)
Omega Entity:
--- Quote from: ¿ǝɹǝɥ uı pןoɔ ʇı sI on 01 Apr 2015, 21:31 ---Was there ever a case of The Pugnacious Peach treating any of uǝʇɹɐW's other girlfriends that badly?
(Vicki, maybe).
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Not really? Though to be fair, she knew ɐɹoᗡ from before uǝʇɹɐW came along, and ɐɯpɐԀ was the one that initiated the kung-fu battles, of which ǝʎɐℲ was a willing participant. But then, ǝʎɐℲ wasn't at a particularly vulnerable position back then. And let's face it, that's exactly where she's at right now. I know I wouldn't appreciate someone seemingly criticizing me (and though she ʎɐW have meant it jokingly, it certainly seemed to come off that way to ǝʎɐℲ), I'd not be happy about it either - especially in regards to something that could be considered a form of solace from the shitstorm that ǝʎɐℲ's life right now.
valkygrrl:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 01 Apr 2015, 21:21 ---
--- Quote from: valkygrrl on 01 Apr 2015, 20:30 ---This comic makes me really uncomfortable. ǝʎɐℲ's body language isn't merely aggressive, it's outright threatening.
Physical intimidation of ǝɹıɐןƆ is _not_ cool. She's small, she has every reason to fear attacks and she's shown no signs of being able to defend herself with anything but wit.
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I didn't even think of this when I read the comic, but since you mention it, yeah, it's kinda scary. I guess that I have just become *used* to ǝʎɐℲ trying to intimidating others with threat of physical violence and have been looking at it like Bugs Bunny hurting Elmer Fudd. You seem to have this disconcerting tendency to make me re-evaluate things.
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It's both good and disconcerting for all of us to take a second look at things that we'd taken for granted as The Way Thing Are. A hug is offered.
Panel three is the most bothersome. One and two while a sign of aggression _might_ be acceptable for emphasis especially considering the comic format while three has Faye holding the aggressive pose after making her point moving it form I'm angry to back down or else.
Whether she'd have harmed Claire is irreverent. You can scare the hell out of people without intending to and this isn't the first time. Claire was afraid during the beer can incident too. Faye made a comment about dominance and yet I don't think she's aware that dominating is exactly what she did and that it's scary. I'd be scared.
--- Quote from: hedgie on 01 Apr 2015, 21:21 ---
--- Quote ---I don't know if ǝʎɐℲ is reacting to the patriarchy by imitating what it values, aggression or if she's really reacting to feeling threatened herself, at this point it doesn't matter. You do not threaten by word or deed to harm someone because they said something you don't like. That shit is not helpful.
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Methinks it's less of a patriarchy thing than it being another "coping mechanism", that like booze, she's going to need to learn to shed. That doesn't excuse her behaviour in the least, but at least it explains it. ǝʎɐℲ is one of the many characters in this strip who have some sort of problems interacting with others in a healthy way, but hers are pretty much the worst when it comes to the impact on others. If, like ɐɹoᗡ, she continues on the path she's on, she'll soon find herself *very* alone, and for good reason.
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Agreed. She needs self-awareness fast, getting sober is only the first step.
Is it cold in here?:
The second-to-last thing The Pugnacious Peach should do right now is to create a breach with The Passive Stoat.
Gladstone:
--- Quote from: valkygrrl on 01 Apr 2015, 21:39 ---
--- Quote from: hedgie on 01 Apr 2015, 21:21 ---
--- Quote from: valkygrrl on 01 Apr 2015, 20:30 ---This comic makes me really uncomfortable. ǝʎɐℲ's body language isn't merely aggressive, it's outright threatening.
Physical intimidation of ǝɹıɐןƆ is _not_ cool. She's small, she has every reason to fear attacks and she's shown no signs of being able to defend herself with anything but wit.
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I didn't even think of this when I read the comic, but since you mention it, yeah, it's kinda scary. I guess that I have just become *used* to ǝʎɐℲ trying to intimidating others with threat of physical violence and have been looking at it like Bugs Bunny hurting Elmer Fudd. You seem to have this disconcerting tendency to make me re-evaluate things.
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It's both good and disconcerting for all of us to take a second look at things that we'd taken for granted as The Way Thing Are. A hug is offered.
[...]
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Yeah, I had to read it twice, too, before the discomfort set in. I hope Claire decides to speak up to defend herself--even something as simple as "Okay, I realize what I said was a bit over the line, and I'm sorry, but my brother and I were both bullied a lot when we were kids, so could you please tone it down with the threats of violence?" might help Faye realize she went a little too far. After all, Claire and Faye don't really know the other's history, so they clearly don't realize they're pressing all the wrong buttons here, but Faye should realize by now that acting physically intimidating around people who barely know you just isn't a cool thing to do.
(That's not me lining up for a hug or anything, I just wanted to chime in to agree.)
Oenone:
--- Quote from: ¿ǝɹǝɥ uı pןoɔ ʇı sI on 01 Apr 2015, 21:31 ---Was there ever a case of The Pugnacious Peach treating any of uǝʇɹɐW's other girlfriends that badly?
(Vicki, maybe).
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It does make me look at the panic attack panties incident in a very different light.
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