Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2927-2931 (30 March to 3 April 2015)
tywren:
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--- Quote from: Akima on 01 Apr 2015, 06:00 ---"Hey, you sass that hoopy Ḧ̵͚̳́̚͝a̷͎̯̻̱͖͂̂̑̌̌͌n̸̙̰̤̖̝̓̚ͅñ̵̩̬̱͒̌ẹ̷͙͓̲̏̈̏͗ͅl̵̨̯̱̯̝̳̀o̴̦̪̙̹͆̌͒̏̓͒̉ͅr̴̡͓͇̪̮̞̊̌̇͂̎e̸̛̞̥͙̠̳̫͛͜ ƐӀӀμηօէէ-↻հąէհąʍ? There's a frood who really knows where her crowbar is."
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For some reason, this reminds me of when Alternative Press typeset an entire interview with Bryan Ferry in Wingdings and assorted runes.
Of course, by this time tomorrow that reference will probably make no sense. :P
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<insert strip #2929 with Zalgo makeover>
He comes.
--- Quote from: CaptainFish on 01 Apr 2015, 22:13 ---I definitely got the threat of physical confrontation read of the situation as well. It's pretty messed up. I'm usually fine with Faye, but this seemed incredibly shitty on several levels. Faye is simultaneously:
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The idea that someone would get mad about 'sass' is so preposterous to me, even without considering how much it is a bullshit complaint coming out of Faye. Wouldn't be surprised if Marten follows up and this turns into a serious confrontation.
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Or, taken from another point of view, someone finally called Claire on her her hyper obnoxious shit. Marten, looking through the rose colored glasses of a new relationship thinks it cute (as has been proven by the last two "I Know" strips); her brother has been browbeaten with it for so long, that he only responds with feeble, whiny denials, or long suffering sighs; and Pintsize, who could have embarrassed enough to take her down a notch or two, has been LOOOOOOMMM'ed out of the picture. That left only Faye to convey to Claire, that she was being annoying, obnoxious, and rude; which she did in her very most blunt, and up front manner.
Huzza i say.
qc001:
--- Quote from: Gladstone on 01 Apr 2015, 22:36 ---You have not experienced Questionable Content until you have read it in the original Klingon.
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Forevermore I shall mentally pronounce all the QC characters names with a Klingon inflection, and imagine that they all have bat'leths. THANK YOU, GOOD SIR :-D
--- Quote from: valkygrrl on 01 Apr 2015, 22:39 ---She doesn't need to. Faye is aware of both Claire's size and the prevalence of violence against women. That should be sufficient.
They both live in a world run by people who are aggressive and larger than they are and that places less value of them than is does men.
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Do they? I'm sorry if I sound flip - I'm being serious, here. Of course what you say is VERY true in the real world, but in QC-land, as far as I can recall, other than a series of strips wherein Penny waxes angrily about the classification of "crazy ex-girlfriends," I don't remember much in the way of misogynistic acts or thoughts being much described. What violence we have seen is typically played for laughs or as the (sorry for the pun) punchline of a specific comic, and has been primarily perpetrated by women, frequently against men. By this token, why wasn't there outrage about Marten looming scarily over Pintsize (to prevent him making a ribald comment to Claire), when Pintsize is a member of a group that has been both self- and author-described as both historically and currently oppressed?
I suppose I am trying to assess everyone's behavior without labeling any one in particular as wholly "good" or "bad," here. I agree that the escalation by Faye was not appropriate, but I was also irked by Claire's actions in the prior two strips. We don't know Faye's motivation (is she just snapping back because she's had a long day and it is easier to be sharp-tongued than to nicely ask Claire to tone it down a bit? Is she "feeling out" Claire to see if she is as spunky as Marten's previous love interests, and did she expect Claire to fight back? Is she just turning into an evil person? What is Jeph's long-term plan for Faye's character?), and we just have the day's snapshot. Jeph ended today's strip with snarky jokes from both Marten and Claire; if Faye is meant to be the unambiguous "bad guy" here, why didn't Marten ask her to cool it or speak up for Claire?
If nothing else, I think I've used up my question mark quota for this post!
MrNumbers:
I think the worst part about this is that she's saying; "I put up with you because of Marten, but we are not friends."
For sass. What sass? Claire in turn was obnoxious, true, about wanting to be helpful and about Faye sculpting something from the dick up.
One of those things was being smug about actively trying to help Faye in a manner that did end up being incredibly beneficial to her. Which wasn't even intentionally obnoxious and, as a lot of us here in the peanut gallery agreed, was totally adorkable.
The next, and I can't stress this enough, insulted neither Faye nor her abilities. And it was a genuinely odd thing for Faye to do. She made a steel dick for an art installation and nothing else for it. Then superglued it to her roommate's pet's head. This is certainly something you should be able to laugh at or tease without it reflecting negatively on the person you're teasing.
So for Faye to react violently - and it is violently - to someone who was just moments before excited to be helpful to her and does not have a malicious bone in her body...
Faye, meanwhile, has called Claire a smartarse and a dork in this time, with Claire and Marten both copping that one on the chin with bright, proud smiles.
So yeah. I'm actually kind of mad. She's just done this to the guy who would otherwise be paying her half of the rent at the moment and, just this week, is the one responsible for getting her to the hospital and who she suckerpunched in her drunken stupour.
God damn it, Faye.
BenRG:
Remember that this isn't happening in a vacuum. Remember the beer can incident? Claire has been outright rude to Faye before. So there is a very slight history of antagonism between the two women. Faye strikes me as the sort of person who may act as if something is resolved but later remember and act out if provoked.
Remember also that this is still Faye's apartment. Marten may have invited Claire over but Faye would be within her rights to ask him not to do so again if Claire were being rude to her or disrupting the apartment. That said, Faye's reaction is excessive in this case.
I still can't work out why she has sculpted a phallus without having the rest of the installation to which she can attach it! She could have totally disarmed Claire if she'd had a sensible explanation. The fact that she didn't have one but instead dodged the question implies some embarrassing tale that is an open goal to someone like Claire. That said, Claire should know that Faye is prickly and fragile in emotional terms; especially given Faye's current situation, she should have known that teasing her would provoke her to aggression. Jeph was right, though: in the end, she just couldn't help herself!
In some ways, Faye was right. In purely orthodox anthropological terms, I suppose that it is possible that Claire, sensing Faye's weakness, was instinctively driven to try to supplant Faye as the 'alpha' in that little circle and Faye responded appropriately. Not knowing much about that field, I couldn't say how likely that scenario might be.
TL;DR -Faye overreacted but Claire should have known not to keep pushing based on Faye's current situation.
In any case, I think that, tomorrow, Marten will sternly dress down both ladies and tell them to be nice to each other. It could even lead to his first argument with Claire. It is strange if you recall that one of the issues that drove away Dora was her fear that, for Marten, Faye would always come first. In any case, I can't see Claire and Faye having anything but an armed truce for the immediate future.
anahata:
All I can say in Faye's defence is that
- She's behaved pretty well recently (in terms of aggression to others) until now
- The stress of not drinking may be beginning to show
- Claire asked for it: knows from experience what happens if you get snarky with Faye, and
- At least she didn't actually hit Claire. She's hit Marten many times.
But instead of judging either Claire or Faye, I'm surprised there hasn't been much speculation about where Jeph is going with this.
Is Faye going to have some epiphany of remorse at the support group? Will her behaviour stretch Marten's patience to the limit? Is this going to cause the first storm in MartenClaire's super-cute-and-perfect relationship?
There must be a reason for this plot development, beyond some jokey parody of Attenborough's nature programmes.
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