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The sad puppies AKA it's really about ethics in award nominations
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 16 Apr 2015, 16:13 ---Sounds like the solution is to go Academy Awards style and limit who gets to vote.
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I thought the Hugos already were that, though?
Half Empty Coffee Cup:
The right to vote in the Hugos can be purchased. Not so with the Academy Awards.
maxusy3k:
That is part of the point though. The Academy Awards are almost a punchline now with the joke being favouritism and judge appeal, which I suspect those deeply involved with the Hugos wish to avoid. The reason this has happened is because the voting is essentially open to fans of the media, which is something I believe people want to preserve. With a fixed panel you run the very real risk of works being selected that cater to particular tastes, not to mention how that panel should be selected in the first place.
Half Empty Coffee Cup:
And yet you'll never see ideologues suddenly take it over, leading to works being selected that cater to particular tastes, if not outright favoritism.
valkygrrl:
If you look only at the argument the puppies wanted to publicly put forward it is 'hey some books sell 50000 copies and get no awards' to which I reply McDonalds sells millions of hambugers and their reward is money, awards are for making something extra special.
Brad's still smarting over his dead last placement in 2012. I voted that year, I'm one of the people who put him dead last. It wasn't for his politics which I didn't know at the time, it was for the steaming pile he left in my Hugo and Campbell packets. All the stories had the same plot, one underwater the rest in space, I've seen the story of Brigham Young's trek out to Utah done before, and done better. Battlestar Galactica this was not. In that same packet _Six months and three days_ was an even better take on predestination than Vionnegut's Timequake. It knocked my socks off and got an enthusiastic vote from me. It wasn't affirmative action, I didn't know Charlie Jane Anders was trans till she got up and gave her acceptance speech, neither did the transwoman I was sitting with at the award ceremony.
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