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WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Neko_Ali:
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
No escape from reality.
valkygrrl:
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--- Quote from: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 04:35 ---Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions.
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This is actually true of all so-called 'facts'. As codified in the Sosume Internet Debate Uncertainty Principle, there are no objectively-perceptible facts, only opinions and shades of perception which must be equally respected lest you turn a low-information poster with self-image issues into a defensive flamer.
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Reasons why valkygrrl hates post-modernism vol. 1.
First rule of valkygrrl club: Reality is real.
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AH! But is reality just what we perceive? Our human perceptions are fallible, so does that mean reality is different for every person? If so, what is real?
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The answer to hard solipsism is it is impossible to know if I'm a brain in a jar so there's nothing lost in assuming reality is real.
If you mean perceptions can be flawed such as with some kinds of mental illness, there are ways to find out if your perceptions are wrong. Other people and the use of technology. If I think it is dark and no one else does, if a light meter says it is not then then problem is in my perception not with reality. We check, we test, we measure, we prove. Unless you think all my inputs are screwed either on a hardware or firmware level at which point there's no point in worrying. If I only see lions, only feel lions, only hear and smell lions and nothing can get through and I can't even tell myself that there cannot be lions well, I'm well and truly screwed. Reality would still be real though and I'd really be locked in a rubber room.
Zebediah:
While it's fun to think about reality only existing as a fuzzy haze of occasionally-intersecting individual perceptual universes, you can't actually live your life that way. Though some people do seem to try.
chaospersonified:
I was thinking more in line with the way memory works, or rather degrades. What we remember is equal to what we know, but if our memories are inaccurate, do we know what is?
I'm in favor of data, but things being subjectively valuable, it can't capture everything.
chaospersonified:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 07:04 ---While it's fun to think about reality only existing as a fuzzy haze of occasionally-intersecting individual perceptual universes, you can't actually live your life that way. Though some people do seem to try.
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Well, I mean, it's not when referring to the actual world. That's where science comes in to explain physics, chemistry, etcetera.
Individual dynamics, though, conscious minds... Yeah, I think you probably could.
Two people see the same thing, but due to their different biochemistry and past histories, they read different meanings into it. Two years later, assuming it was a shocking enough thing that they still think about it, they'll recall different details, mis-remember different things. If you asked them each to describe the scene, they'd paint two different pictures, but the thing is, neither of those pictures would be accurate.
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