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Dune: Book, Movie, Miniseries.
Orbert:
I'm fine with all six of the orignal books, but I can see why some people have trouble after the first three. The first three are tight, with Messiah practically an epilogue, and Children following close after. God Emperor starts 1500 years later (IIRC) and with a new set of characters, which can be off-putting. Sure, Leto II is around, and Duncan (kinda), but we almost immediately dive into explorations of religion and mythology, as well as further exploration the life cycle of the sandworm and the planetary life web of Arrakis, but first off, there's apparently people who want Leto II dead, and it's a movement led by one of his descendants. And of course Leto II has evolved into a human/sandworm hybrid thing. That's some weird shit there.
It's been a while, but I believe the fifth and sixth books also jump forward in time, checking in on the mythology and how it has evolved over time. I thought it was fascinating. And I liked the further exploration and development of the Bene Tleilaxu and all that. But the later three books seem to sacrifice actual storytelling for all this conceptual stuff, and a lot of people at least need a coherent story to follow, with characters they like or at least can relate to. We don't get much of that in the later three books. It's all this "heady" stuff. Not everyone's cup of tea.
pwhodges:
There's that, which fits my view; plus the fact that when I read the first three they were the whole series anyway, and the felt complete (I thought I'd posted that, but I must have pressed the wrong button).
celticgeek:
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--- Quote from: celticgeek on 01 May 2015, 13:35 ---I have not seen the series, but I am planning to do so at some point.
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*cough* part 1 *cough*
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The problem was never where it was, but getting through the first ten or fifteen minutes.
I have now watched the whole thing. Better than the movie in some respects, worse in others. Neither the movie nor the series was as good as the book.
Akima:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 02 May 2015, 12:20 ---For me it stops working after three.
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Same here. I wasn't impressed with God Emperor of Dune, and when Herbert started getting his characters out of tricky situations by having them spontaneously develop superpowers in Heretics of Dune, I lost interest completely.
Orbert:
Herbert has always done that, though. As much as I love the original Dune, I still laugh to myself at one scene where Paul and Jessica are trying to get away from the bad guys. Paul uses Voice on them, and Jessica thinks "Whoa, he can use Voice. Cool." Then he ramps it up a bit, pulls some extended Neuralyzer on them, and she thinks "He has the Great Control!"
Really, Frank? The "Great Control"? And yeah, we'd never even heard of it up to that point.
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