Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
SubaruStephen:
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--- Quote from: BenRG on 15 May 2015, 03:37 ---lawful neutral
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Are you really lawful if you are the law?
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"You are the law" as in that terrible Sylvester Stalone movie?
Method of Madness:
As in the guy on the lower half of this:
Storel:
Alice's face in the last panel looks as if she's hoping she gets to flex her muscles a bit...
--- Quote from: BenRG on 15 May 2015, 03:37 ---You're looking at this strip in isolation. Alice already said that she had Gavia under control. Jeb's reaction to that was to disrespect her in such a way that made me think that this was an attempt to prove he is the town's alpha by picking a fight with her.
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Good point. I hadn't thought of it quite that way before, but it does seem like that's what he's doing.
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 15 May 2015, 12:44 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 15 May 2015, 03:37 ---lawful neutral
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Are you really lawful if you are the law?
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How can you not be?
mikmaxs:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 15 May 2015, 03:37 ---You're looking at this strip in isolation. Alice already said that she had Gavia under control. Jeb's reaction to that was to disrespect her in such a way that made me think that this was an attempt to prove he is the town's alpha by picking a fight with her.
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Really? His question of 'And what if you blink and she's got the town afire again' seems pretty legitimate. Especially since, earlier that day we saw Gavia nearly provoked into a torch-the-world rage by a few kids with sticks. (And if it hadn't been for someone on standby watching her, she would have torched the place.) If Alice looks away, it's totally plausible that Gavia could torch the place pretty badly.
Further, keep in mind that Alice apparently doesn't seem to visit the town very often. Since the comic started, we've only seen her go to the town twice, and both times were with reluctance. I highly doubt that she really knows everyone in the town perfectly well enough to know exactly what to say in order to manipulate them to do what she wants.
As a thought experiment, if I ever worry that a main character is acting badly, I try and imagine their actions from the perspective of the other character, as though the story was written with that side-character as the protagonist. If the side character is still in the wrong, the main character is probably fine. Let's try that with Jeb.
Scene one, Jeb, (A local farmhand or town worker of somekind,) is minding his own business when a demonic monster attacks the town, seeking an apparently harmless blue alien who's wandering around town. The monster torches a majority of the town, and is stopped only when a more powerful being who neither lives in the town nor regularly spends time with the townsfolk steps in. This being, who also seems to have total unquestionable control over the town, then takes away the monster.
Two weeks later, the monster and the being return to town. When our hero questions the idea of bringing in a deadly monster back to town, he's not given a rational explanation or common courtesy, he's told that he simply has to trust the being, and if he doesn't then the being is going to beat the crap out of him and then publicly humiliate him for worrying about the town.
Now, thinking about that, where would a Jeb-centered story go? It's a pretty basic hero's journey setup. He's laughably weaker to Alice and Gavia both to the point of it being not just underdog but the underdog TO the underdog. His attempts to preemptively save his town get shot down, and the all-powerful government body tells him that he's not allowed to question them. If this were a story about Jeb, Alice would be the villain.
Also, re-reading the comic... Alice says she's been 'Watching over the town' for a really long time.
Um... Watching over for what? Until Ardent and Gavia, what threats have needed an immortal demigod watching over the town for hundreds or thousands of years? (An immortal demigod who gets snippy and aggressive when a twenty-something male questions her.)
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 15 May 2015, 23:46 ---Until Ardent and Gavia, what threats have needed an immortal demigod watching over the town for hundreds or thousands of years?
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Well, we don't know yet; doesn't mean we won't find out in due course. The story's still only just beginning.
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