Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
Mlle Germain:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 20 May 2015, 00:39 ---If a guy goes up on stage and plays rock music, but tells a joke between one or two of his songs, he's a musician with a sense of humor. If he plays one rock song and then tells jokes the rest of the time, he's a comedian with a weird and pointless rock song in the middle of his set. Shakespeare is the musician, Alice Grove is the comedian.
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I think this comparison, though hyperbolic, illustrates your point quite well.
I don't agree with everything you've said, but I think this is valid criticism that is absolutely not out of place in this thread. Of course it's alright to like Alice Grove as a funny comic focused on slightly silly punchlines -- but it's also alright to point out that AG's more serious aspects are kind of covered up by the silliness and it stops the plot from advancing. Because it does. And I think that this amount of silly humour feels less natural in AG than in QC, because AG set out as a much more story-driven serious and dramatic comic than QC.
I can understand the impulse to defend a piece of art you like against any criticism, even if valid (I've done that multiple times), but this forum would be really boring if people couldn't also voice their opinion on aspects of the comic that they don't like as much.
Of course if someone complains incessantly and is only negative, one wonders why they still read the comic, but I think we would all do well to not dismiss valid criticism immediately even if we disagree.
(I mean look at this discussion: I bet Mikmaxs would have looked way less negative about AG if people hadn't shot down all of their criticism from the start, making it necessary for them to explain and reiterate their views so much. Of course it's ok to disagree -- I do on several points -- but then it might also be good to admit that a lot of the points are valid criticism, even if they don't bother you personally.)
mikmaxs:
^What she said.
And, just so it's said, there are a lot of things I like about QC: The comedy really is pretty good, even if I wish it was further in the background. Obviously the art is nice. When we *do* get flashes of setting and background it seems pretty interesting. Ardent and Gavia have a nice back/forth dynamic and their characters contrast well.
I just feel like saying this isn't really particularly profound, 'cause it's kind of obvious. Unlike something like Catch 22, where it works for confusing or strange reasons that take a lot of thought and explaining to understand, all of the good stuff in AG is pretty straightforward, so I don't often see the point in bringing it up.
Mlle Germain:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 20 May 2015, 09:43 ---^What he said.
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It's she, actually. :-)
(Even though a screen name of course doesn't have to be indicative of someone's gender or preferred pronouns in any way, in my case it is: Mlle is short for Mademoiselle, i.e. Miss in French. Sophie Germain was a French mathematician I admire.)
cesium133:
This whole time I hadn't noticed that was a lowercase L, and thought your screen name was Mile Germain. :psyduck:
mikmaxs:
^What they said. I should look at usernames more carefully, I read it as 'Miles Germain'. My bad. Edited.
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