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Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015

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mikmaxs:

--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 30 May 2015, 06:15 ---I'm ok calling her an anti-hero.

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That's fair, though most anti-heroes have some kind of draw to their personality to make them empathetic. Alice might have a tragic backstory or a character draw, but we're nine months in and I haven't heard a glimpse of it yet.

Is it cold in here?:
Would you argue that beyond being an unsympathetic character she's a badly portrayed one?

Wildroses:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 29 May 2015, 23:18 ---
--- Quote ---just shy of being a straight villain

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Do we know she isn't?

She has done some Mary Worth things for the villagers, but that could be egotism or a community service sentence instead of a matter of good will.

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SO MUCH THIS. I have wondered for a long time if she is going to be the villain of this story. I'm waiting for more information on her origins and motivations before making a final decision on that. Another of my theories is this is the story of Alice realising she's a horrible person and becoming nicer, so there is a chance we are supposed to be thinking Alice is a nasty patronising jerk right now.

Do the ends justify the means is possibly something Jeph is trying to make readers think about here. That town is very well protected and the villagers all respect Alice greatly (I didn't say like, that is a different thing). But Alice's methods of protecting and getting respect are questionable.

Really for me the most damning thing about Alice is how much people are afraid of her rather than anything she does. Jeb wasn't the first, and I note it wasn't until she explicitly stated she wanted the chance to prove her strength that he became afraid. She terrified the three demon hunting children, she managed to bring Jack to gibbering panic by changing her expression when he asked if she'd deal with Ardent if he turned out to be dangerous, and when a child asked if it was true she could turn out the sun their mother became afraid and dragged it away. To get that level of fear, you have to have done something rather than merely used words. It's possible everyone is afraid of her because she's done powerful things while protecting the villagers, but Alice's joy in beating up Gavia and obvious desire that Jeb would give her an excuse to be violent makes me consider it unlikely. Alice only gives people one chance.

You have no idea how much I want to hear the villagers talking about Alice when they think she is not there.

Method of Madness:
So far it doesn't seem like this comic has a villain. Then again, neither does QC.

Zebediah:
I don't think the story really needs one. But if there is a villain, I don't think we've seen him/her/it yet. If I had to guess, I'd go with it being the Praeses that allowed Ardent and Gavia to beam down.

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