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Mad Max: Fury Road
Neko_Ali:
So long as they don't start talking about wanting to be all shiny and chrome and being witnessed...
Mlle Germain:
Hi, I haven't actually seen the movie (and I don't really think I'd like it because I'm just not into action movies), but I read quite a bit of the discussion about it, and I found this really interesting article:
http://agameofme.tumblr.com/post/120161412202/creating-the-green-place-on-mad-max-fury-road
Have a look if you like!
de_la_Nae:
Echoes some other things I've seen some people say.
Have to respectfully disagree with some of it, though I can sympathize with most of it.
(click to show/hide)I need to watch it again before I can *really* comment on the theme of the visual representation and camera focusing for the 'Wives', but what I remember about the movie is that
A) No one who survives gets the worse for wear / dirtier in this film (at least not for long), so that seems like a hard point to argue for propping up the argument.
B) There's only one scene I can think of where the camera really focuses on the 'Wives's bodies and their conventional attractiveness, and that's the scene in which they're introduced, and where they make a *very* stark contrast to the filth, squalor, disease, disfigurement, and pain we've seen all the other characters and factions so far in.
Personally if I was going to argue something along the lines of this article, my thesis would be more along the lines of how this film's importance as a feminist action movie is that it's a big step in the right direction (on top of being a damned fine example of an action movie period), highlighting how fucked up most of its brethren are. Not a level 10, but at least a level 2 among a bunch of level 0 commoners.
Which to be fair is something she sorta touches on.
Also did I mention it's just a damned good movie at base anyway?
Neko_Ali:
I will say now that I've seen it, I saw a lot less of the Patriarchy vs Matriarchy/bad vs good than a lot of people were suggesting in it. It was there, yes. And certainly Immortan Joe was a horrible person and a clear example of the worst parts of patriarchy. But the women of the Green Place were not some saints either. They were the better option sure. But...
(click to show/hide)In the end though they went right back to where it started. Essentially using the tools of the patriarchy (Killing Joe, taking his stuff) in the name of survival. Time will see what they turn that civilization into, what happens next. And how whoever is left in Gas Town and Bullet Town respond.
As far as the women go... Yeah they were clearly conventionally attractive and scantily dressed. I can see that for most of the film they didn't exactly have a chance to change, or clothes to change into seeing as how they were on the run for about 90% of the movie. They all did have moments of strength. But I can also say.. I don't remember any of their names. I vaguely remember one of their names being mentioned... I'm not even sure any of the others were. But then I can only remember 4 people's name in the whole movie so... That's probably not saying a whole lot.
It was a good movie. I kind of see why people would call it a feminist movie. But that really depends on how you define feminism too. Those who think that the existence of women in a starring role means it was destroying 'men's action films' are absolutely absurd though, and feeling threatened over the tiniest of things.
Method of Madness:
What kind of bugged me was that their names seemed less like names and more descriptions, so I didn't remember any of them either.
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