Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDT - June 2015
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 11 Jun 2015, 20:31 ---
There were AI's in this Universe...
Alice is either an immortal Human remnant of one of the two civilisations, or a highly advanced AI who is so close to Human it's virtually impossible to distinguish the difference. I'm guessing she's not entirely Human in the terms we would understand them, but neither is she an AI Construct.
The Praeses are some form of lower level AI/Advanced Semi-sentient Computer Life left behind after the true AI's left.
'The Blink' may have been AI's taking a hand in ending a war that was ruining Earth before completely seperating themselves from the two societies - the new stars might actually be the AI's who have left to live beyond the Solar System, but still close enough to be seen and to watch over the system of their birth
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Agreed with most of that, except the last. The new stars are new habitats for Humanity, and perhaps faraway ones for for the AIs too.
This sounds to me more like a Singularity event, where one of the AIs bootstrapped itself into super-sentience, became weakly godlike, and reacted rather like Stross' Eschaton (or like Asimov's Olivaw, but with less subtlety). The reaction included removing AIs to elsewhere, scattering humanity to plenty of new planets, editing Earth to be livable again (and agrarian), preserving nanotechnology but only in space habitats where it could do less harm in case of a grey goo event, and leaving guardians like the Praeses and Alice to watch over humanity.
I think the Praeses would have to be semisentient, and Alice would have to be bio-modified actual human, just because if you are removing AIs, you have to remove all of them. Any full AI left behind could theoretically bootstrap itself just as the Eschaton did, and the current Eschaton either fears that as a threat to itself, or to Humanity, or both.
(Edit) p.s. On second thought, if the Eschaton fears AIs as a threat to itself, it didn't move them elsewhere, it deleted them all. So either the Eschaton doesnt mind company, or it has genocided/absorbed all other AIs. The rest of the reasoning seems to stand, either way.
SubaruStephen:
So Alice is either a genetically super enhanced human, or she's more human than human.
Undrneath:
--- Quote from: SubaruStephen on 11 Jun 2015, 22:42 ---So Alice is either a genetically super enhanced human, or she's more human than human.
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Perhaps a super freak.
wlewisiii:
So if the faction that survived after the Blink is that of the bio engineers, why do the Praeses have to be Semi-setient? It would seem that if you don't trust AI you might instead want to engineer something akin to the Ents: rarely mobile, extremely long lived, perhaps made to decide things slowly as a direct opposition to the speed of AI thinking... "let's not be hasty..."
If they are the Guardians of the space humans, they have to be fully intelligent but obviously non mechanical or completely artificial. Perhaps highly genetically modified individuals that started out as human normal? With Alice refusing to go along, this might be a source of the conflict between her and the Praeses?
BenRG:
--- Quote from: SubaruStephen on 11 Jun 2015, 22:42 ---So Alice is either a genetically super enhanced human, or she's more human than human.
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Or the power responsible for the deus ex machina wanted her on Earth, irrespective of what she is.
Maybe it's me but I get the impression that this was not random. Where people ended up depended a lot on who they are and what they wanted/believed. So, where Alice ended up was definitely due to the Deus Machine's analysis of her and her role in its solution.
Oh, you can be sure that it is around, somewhere. I think that it is directing events even now. What happened to Gavia and Ardent is almost certainly its doing.
PREDICTION:
The nanomachines that make up the Night Walker are part of the means that the Deus Machine used to edit the world.This is a good rreason to believe that it might be a threat to Gavia; she may confirm to its target profile.
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