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Meilu:
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--- Quote from: sfsdfd on 02 Jun 2015, 00:40 ---As I noted above, the handling of Claire's trans issue has been just utterly spot-on. It's neither been hidden, nor pushed into front and center.
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Except that an alarmingly large number of people in the WCDTs and elsewhere disagree on that, think it had too big a focus, etc. etc.
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I think those people would have been upset regardless of the amount of focus on her being trans. It could have been a single throwaway line from before they started dating and it would have been too much focus. I'd argue it isn't spot-on, but it was handled very well regardless.
ReindeerFlotilla:
I suggest that it is important to remember that, when it comes to art, there is no spot on. There is only "works for me," or "does not work for me."
Sometimes, when a thing is not working for "me," (whoever me is) it's because "me" has some unexamined prejudice towards some part of the subject. Facing up to the very special subject of the moment, I don't think that's the issue. It's certainly a road I've been down before, so I know it well enough to say the treatment works for me. The only thing that's not working is the speed and the lack of movement around all other hanging threads in QC.
I know Jeph's been hinting at Faye having a problem for a long time, so it may seem as if I'm ignoring something when I say "the speed" but my experience has been that people reach this level of drinking struggle long before they start to implode.
wlewisiii:
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--- Quote from: Akima on 01 Jun 2015, 15:23 ---I'm not quite sure why "I'm outta here" announcements have to be made, but tastes differ on that too.
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I am amused when people say they are leaving a forum, and then stay on to join the discussion of why they're leaving. There's another place I frequent where this is such a regular occurrence they have a thread for it...
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The one place I regularly post were people "flounce" (local term for it) they get the ban hammer instantly & their last post(s) are deleted. You'd think that'd take the fun out of it but idiots keep doing it.
Aziraphale:
--- Quote from: sfsdfd on 02 Jun 2015, 00:40 ---That's why this insistence on mucking through alcoholism, time and time again, is perplexing: it's abruptly out of character for the way that QC has dealt with tough issues. The heavy-handedness; the clumsy pacing; the insistence on portraying the most bleak and revolting aspects, like Faye vomiting all over herself... seriously, WTF? It's pointlessly cruel, both to the characters and the audience.
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De-lurking for a minute to throw in a quick "WTF?" If you've ever known ANYone with addiction and witnessed what they've struggled with, this is anything but perplexing. Mucking through again and again -- daily, in some cases -- is pretty much the point. Jeph's likely drawn on his own experiences here, and like several of us, probably knows plenty of other people who've had similar experiences. Not everybody's a "happy drunk", or high-functioning. People puke on themselves, shit themselves, piss themselves, et cetera. Not all of them, not all the time. But it happens.
The irony is, of course, only compounded by the fact that if Faye just put the bottle down, never to so much as think about returning -- much less actually picking the damn thing up -- several people would complain that it was extremely unrealistic. And you know something? They'd be right to.
Like it or not (and you don't, I get it), not everyone brings the same set of experiences to "tough issues." Those experiences, in turn, color our perception. If we approach the stuff we read/watch partly on the basis of what we've seen or been through, how is it in any way unusual that a writer would do the same?
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