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WCDT 2976-2980 (8 - 12 June 2015)
Method of Madness:
The Talk 2: Talk Harder
Jimington:
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 09 Jun 2015, 20:41 ---Despite what my posts over the last few months might imply, I really like Claire as a character.
However, just as your friend suddenly becomes insufferable when they start dating a new person, I found Claire (and Marten) suddenly insufferable once the relationship began.
Hopefully this comic signifies a turning point.
--- End quote ---
Agree--Claire was great fun a quirky addition. However once they have started dating, Marten has become very 'me' centered (can't be bothered digging up the # but Mom moves in and it's "hey, by the way I'm dating someone" and then in 2977 it's "we have to talk about this" "I'm not letting you push me away" and going WAYY too hard on Faye for relapsing). Ok: he is just trying to help, but he is trying to help in his usual way: Overbearing and rarely listening.
In response to 'chaospersonified': Not trolling--frustrated (admittedly poorly). And yes I know it is Marten's story and the main character isn't going to 'take a wing'. Go back to Claire's performance review: it's somehow a massive problem that she actually has made great serendipitous connections and her superiors are relaxed and gentle employees. Honestly, boo hoo. What did she want? A glowing 10 page precis? There's 'wanting to be a professional' and 'not understanding that other people have ways and means of doing their work' that might be effective given their circumstances. And then her first reaction to Marten wishing to support a friend (really, who hasn't been in that position of having to say to a new partner "hey, my buddy is going through some stuff and I really need to support them tonight"?). Reacting that poorly because you suspect that they are being unfaithful? That's your problem, not theirs.
Having said all of that: today (2978) she actually responded well. Let's hope that she doesn't have to have Faye threaten her to do that every time or we're in for a long summer (winter for me).
Very interested to see how this 'talk' goes. Will Faye actually get to say her piece or is it going to be all 'advice'?
chaospersonified:
Jimington, my response was largely due to the unfounded statements claiming a friend recognizing another friend has a problem, and calling them on it, is them 'standing on a soapbox.' If calling your friends out on messing things up that could ruin their lives makes you a douche, then call me a fucking pressure washer, and my friends as well, because I don't think much of enablers. He's not 'making everything about himself,' he's literally doing everything he can to help her, a job description that includes ruining her buzz.
BenRG:
Firstly, I think that Claire is making the right call here. I certainly understand her desire not to be a third wheel in what is likely to be a very intimate and personal conversation; she likely doesn't feel comfortable with being stuck in the middle of that.
Secondly, I think it's kind of funny the way, in panel 4, Faye and Claire talk over Marten. "Hang on, women talking here, boyo!"
Finally... Is it me or does Jeph particularly like doing portraits of Claire? He does seem to go the extra mile or so to put in detail and flesh out her anatomy and body shape. I'm thinking particularly of panel 1 in today' strip.
P.S.: Where did Faye get that mug? Not just the size but the smiley kitty decoration! I'd really like to have something like that! :-D
ZoeB:
Well played, Claire.
Trust in Marten.
Considering others over herself.
Good judgment of what's needed.
And extracting a promise that her boyfriend will be returned to her undamaged.
She belongs to him. He belongs to her. A matched set, in case that wasn't obvious.
Well done, Jeph.
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