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WCDT 2986-2990 (22-26 June 2015)

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Neko_Ali:

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--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 24 Jun 2015, 14:23 ---No Marten, no. Faye working at The Secret Bakery would be a bad idea for so many reasons.

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I'm struggling to think of a single one, to be honest.

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1 - It continues her down the same path she was before. She was comfortable, but not really going anywhere with her job at the Coffee of Doom. She could use a shaking up of her status quo, not back sliding into where she was before she started drinking to excess.

2 - The Secret Bakery and Coffee of Doom trade beans for baked goods. Not to mention the cross over of friendships between the two  shops. Probably not a reminder Faye needs until she and Dora can reconnect, which should ideally be done on their own time, and not right not. Nor by being forced to interact through business.

3 - The culture of The Secret Bakery is way different than CoD. Faye would not be able to be her usual snarky self there, but actually treat customers with respect. This means a huge amount of stress for her.

4 - Now that Marten's suggested he help her get the job through his connections, that point is there. Even if Faye got the job on her own, the question will still remain , quietly in the background of her mind that she may have only got the job because Jim is sleeping with Marten's mom. While not at Dora's levels, Faye can be kind of paranoid like that. And it is a natural thing to wonder.

5 - Faye has wanted to do more with welding and art for a while, but is to afraid to step out of her comfort zone. Afraid enough that when flat out given the opportunity to make a lot of money with her art, she wanted to turn it down. If there is one thing Faye is very good at it's sabotaging herself to make sure things around her don't change, because she fears that change. Well now she's been kicked out and forced to change... Working another coffee shop would just let her go back and hide again.

I'm not saying TSB should be off the table as a job. I'm saying for Faye's own growth she would be better off finding work elsewhere, preferably doing something she enjoys doing. If money becomes an issue than yes, better to have a job that's not best for you rather than no job at all. But right now she has the opportunity to make some real forward steps. And working in another coffee shop would not be going forward.

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: Benergy on 25 Jun 2015, 06:49 ---Rule 34 obviously applies but in an interestingly different way: Look long enough and you will find someone who is sexually interested in anything, no matter how horrifying it may seem to nearly everyone else.
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You're thinking of Rule 36.

ReindeerFlotilla:

--- Quote from: swapna on 25 Jun 2015, 05:38 ---It isn't the same, though. As welder, she can work a stable job in an established business, and while she wouldn't be making art or murder-chassis, she can get paid a lot more than as barista, and might even be able to negotiate better terms. (I'm still a little disturbed over how easy she could get fired, without any kind of security or compensation or anything, and apparently she didn't get paid holidays as assistant manager. And it was only because Dora didn't file the paperwork right away that her healthcare still covered her - that's just horrible.)  And it would be a job doing what she's good at - she might be good at making coffee, but her interaction with customers would be very out of place at any other place than CoD.

On another note: That one felt very classic - funny and serious at once, driving the plot forward, with a punchline provided by our favourite seabiscuit. Awesome!

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Of course it's not the same, but Faye needs to learn to modify her behavior, anyway. There's sass and then there's assault. Faye tends to live near the latter most of the time. But, setting that aside, we know Faye has skills because she's an artist, but welding a sculpture and welding, say, a pressure vessel or load bearing member (cue Pintsize) is a whole different animal. She may not be qualified to do that as work.

Also, I've done a lot of writing, professionally. You know what kills the desire to be creative? Using your creative skill to do non-creative things. After a long day of churning text for a quality management system, the last thing I wanted to see was a keyboard.

All that said, I'm not saying Faye should run off to the Bakery, right now. That would be foolish. Marten's given her time, and she should use it intelligently to find work that doesn't interfere with her creativity (Obviously working in a coffee shop was doing that, for some reason). But going to work in another coffee shop isn't doom for her.

Throwing everything on the hope of a creative endeavor is super risky. Trying to join a certified trade is a huge time sink, and costs money. Given her current lack of income, that's another problem.

Obviously, this a fictional universe with strong AI, and kinetic scorn. The issues can be papered over. All I'm saying is that working in a coffee shop would not be bad for Faye. Not bad needn't equal best. I mean, she could become President, or CEO of Apple, or an astronaut. She won't, but it is fiction, so she could. Those would pay better than welding. Why not aim high?

Jim has plenty of reason not to hire her, anyway. That is, he's familiar with her. At the same time, she's been a positive influence on Sam, and she's half the reason for a successful partnership between the Bakery and Coffee of Doom. Storywise, Faye working there, and actually using the semi-familiar job as a means of expanding her life outside of work is just good for the comic, and potentially good for Faye.

I'm not arguing that these things must occur, or the comic is bad. I'm just disagreeing with the idea that not being bold is bad for a person in Faye's position. Trying to weld professionally or as an artist would be bold and super stressful. I'm an artist who is, literally, giving it away free and I'm stressed right the hell out because it was bold move. I have depression and abandonment issues, and if I had a drinking problem, I'd be hammered. As it is, I have a procrastination problem, which you can see I indulge in. This post ain't payin' no bills.

Tony Stark was right when he told JARVIS, sometimes you've got to run before you can walk. But to borrow another line from that movie (paraphrased) Faye is not Tony Stark.

(Get Raven and Emily together to work on the hardware and software inside Faye-built chassis, and you're on to something that will either save the world, or destroy it.)

emilygrrl:
You know, it got me thinking... wasn't Faye the main selling point for Coffee of Doom, at least in the past? I wonder how CoD is doing, now that Faye is gone.

Schmee:
You mean when CoD was mentioned in one of those trendy hipster magazines, and a heap of people turned up trying to get sassed? I thought that was ages ago - even in comic time.

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