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WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
osaka:
Or maybe put it into perspective even. "These dudes are armor-plated. We regularly throw Pintsize at a dented wall and nothing's happened to him, they're barely scratching themselves. Also, meet Bubbles, Pintsize's new partner in crime"
ReindeerFlotilla:
--- Quote from: de_la_Nae on 29 Jul 2015, 06:11 ---Doesn't *quite* pan out like you'd think; Hollywood has pushed more and more intentionally, and relied upon, international markets for some time now. And thus have driven the international market for quite a while as well. Probably since close to the inception of movies as a thing, now that I consider it.
There's some interesting reading on it here and about, particularly in the context of more recent movie offerings that can be argued that their manufacturers are leaning a little more on other cultures to make their money (Bay's Transformers movies, the remake of The Karate Kid, etc.).
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It's still an export of an American movie. American movie. Look up why Big West Bandai intentionally makes no effort export Macross beyond Japan. It's very much part of the Anime business to look at international options. The specific case I mentioned has everything to do with some potentially shady legal business that went down in the 1980s before international anime was a standard business idea.
Every producer of media is looking or hoping for an international audience. Hell, Jeph is an international business. While he certainly doesn't do it often in your face, the comic is not only American, but it's straight up small town Massachusetts. Stuff happens or is shown, all the time in QC that makes no sense to anyone who doesn't live in the area.
Your example of Bayformers is instructive. There's a scene where human bad guys get into fisticuffs with some random dude. That scene makes no particular sense beyond random Chinese fight to everyone but Chinese people, where random dude is a famous boxer. That's almost pandering, when you think about it. But China is a Billion and half people with disposable income. The movie is still stuffed with Americana right up until it moves to China, and I expect there's a lot more than just that one scene of Chinese-specific that makes no sense to anyone else not Chinese there.
Like I said, it don't bother me none. Hell, China has produced some of my favorite stars who did their best work in Chinese (Hong Kong) films full of stuff that makes no sense to me, not being from Hong Kong (Chow Yun-Fat). BFD. I'm still not sure why American films, in particular, have to waste time explaining things, any more than Jeph needed to explain in detail the townie or Wicked-as-intensifier gags. But I guess that's me.
tangerinewarrior:
Also, Faye doesn't need to give all the details. She can just say, "I'm doing some welding work," and leave it at that. Hell, Marten even suggested she get into that line of work.
Neko_Ali:
For a very long time Sven has been Dora's insecurity complex made manifest. You know how people like to talk about whether Claire and Clinton have a good sibling relationship? Sven and Dora absolutely don't. And really, it's all on Dora's side. Sven has never shown himself to be more than doing typically sibling teasing (hiding a favorite doll that sort of thing). And when Dora need him, he was there. Dora on the other hand seems to blame Sven directly or indirectly for most of the bad stuff that happened to her growing up. In fairness it seems they had the 'golden child/pale shadow' relationship going on with their parents where Sven was the favorite. And he has pretty much coasted through life obliviously. Making ridiculous amounts of money for very little work that he then complains about, but can't be bothered to change. Absurdly easy time with women and just generally everything Dora was jealous of growing up. She feels that Sven has been just given everything she had to fight for and doesn't appreciate it. So there's always been a lot of jealousy and animosity there.
I also suspect there's been romantic rivalry between them as well. Rivalry in the sense that Sven often wound up with girls that Dora lusted after, through no real effort of his own. That's why him hitting on/dating her friends and employees is such a sore subject. It's something that's happened to often before. Sven on the other side seems far more clueless than malicious. I wouldn't say anything he does is out of mean spiritedness. He's genuinely a good person.. he's just had to easy a life and doesn't know how to deal with people. As I said at the time, his ideas of how romance work seem more in tune with romantic comedy movies than real life. "I confessed my love to Faye. Why didn't she drop her boyfriend and come with me? That's how it works, right?"
I understand why Dora cut ties with Sven. It's just the wrong decision, and unfair to everyone around them. It's just another of Dora's way of not dealing with her issues and insecurities, and finding someone else to blame.
ReindeerFlotilla:
To put it in Temarian terms, "Sven and Marten, in the bathroom."
Amazing how useful that strip is lately.
The point being, in reference to my earlier "show, don't tell" comment, Sven's behavior in 669 through 680+ is typical of him pre-Faye. I think it is harsh and overly mushy-feel-good-hug-it-out to say that a decade of Sven's MO, especially wrt to people Dora cares about, is just jealousy.
What Sven tried to do to Genevieve, he has (per Dora) done to more than one of her friends. The only reason he didn't do it to Faye was that she knew what he was, and managed to guilt him into being honest about his actions.
Maybe it's unfair of Dora to view Sven through his past actions, but even his reformed self has been less than Emily Post. Dora likely is acting out of her own damage. Most people are. But that doesn't mean Sven's actions wouldn't constitute too much for a self-actualized Dora as well. As Genevieve said, he's a dick. Because for most of his life, that's exactly what he's been.
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