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Alice Grove MCDT August 2015
Deadcoder:
Just thought of something. What if the Praeses aren't unified? We have no reason to believe that they have a unified motive. What if there's internal conflict of some kind among the Praeses, and Alice is partially right?
plusorminus:
--- Quote from: Deadcoder on 11 Aug 2015, 19:43 ---Just thought of something. What if the Praeses aren't unified? We have no reason to believe that they have a unified motive. What if there's internal conflict of some kind among the Praeses, and Alice is partially right?
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I think this was posited by someone back during the "special snowflake" comic. It was suggested that either the Praeses wanted Ardent as a scout to the surface for some reason and then thought better of it and sent down Gavia, or that there was a set of Praeses interested in the "other world" and allowed Ardent to go and that another faction of Praeses was appalled by this and sent Gavia after him. That they were not able to be brought back suggests that there might have been a battle between the Praeses and they are all incapacitated or dead.
My suspicion is that Alice is deadly serious in her intent to kill Ardent. She is telling Gavia because what else can Gavia do? Alice nearly beat her to death. She has said openly that if the Praeses had attempted to launch an invasion she herself would have inflicted massive casualties. She is in effect telling Gavia that her brother has to die and that if she interferes, she will die, too.
I am wondering if this is being set up for Gavia and Ardent escaping Alice and going on the run, possibly finding other "groves." My thought now is that Alice's little area isn't the most advanced in the world, but rather the least. She may have set herself up to be a Kurz-like character a la Heart of Darkness ruling over "the savages." Other areas might have indoor plumbing, electricity, technology, and Alice might be keeping this area back against the Praeses' wishes and Ardent was sent to get the party started.
Is it cold in here?:
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--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 10 Aug 2015, 21:11 ---Killing children is not her style? She was going to beat Gavia to death shortly after they first met, for what is actually a lesser danger in her mind. Gavia was only threatening to burn down the town and had already been pretty much neutralized by Alice's anti-nanotech-tech.
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It's not that she wouldn't kill someone who is attacking her or her charges (child or no), but I find it hard to believe she'd kill an innocent. She didn't kill either of them, even though their existence posed a massive risk to balance and tranquility. She was pounding Gavia's face in because Gavia was attacking first her town, then her. Ardent is dangerous, but he's not belligerent.
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Welcome!
In support of your position, we've seen Alice show forbearance around children no matter how much she chooses to scare them.
On the other hand, we don't know much about her, and the glee with which she beat up Gavia shows some disquieting things in her psychology.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 11 Aug 2015, 19:42 ---Another question I just now considered: Why couldn't the nanobots come down on their own and be flown around via remote control?
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Because [[arbitrary plot device]].
If you want a suggestion, here's one off-the-cuff: Alice has already explained that modern nanomachines are different from the sort that make up the Night Walker. It is possible that they don't have that capability due to their lack of collective computing power or it is possible that their construction is too fragile to handle the environment outside of a human body.
FunkyTuba:
Something I've been confused about since the Gavia=nanomachines Ardent=pure human but with "helping" evolution comic...
How else would Ardent be able to repair his tail but with nanomachines? I interpreted that comic as "Ardent doesn't use nanotech for daily stuff but he does carry it with him and uses it to rebuild his tail and make his skin blue or other gross body modifications and he'd use it to get out of a jam if necessary". Noone else here seemed to take it that way. But the revelation that he's carrying a nanotech trojan payload seems to make it more likely that he's got some of his own for them to hide in :?
Also chalk me up in the Alice-is-trying-to-force-the-Praeses'-hand category.
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