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WCDT Strips 3086-3090 (9th to 13th November 2015)
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: Tichy on 11 Nov 2015, 05:30 ---Just a random thought, what with Jeph drawing analogies between AI rights in the comic and other social issues in our world.
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Trans people have over double the rate of participation in the military of the general population, despite still being prohibited from serving at the present time.
This leads to some *interesting* debates within that community. I think it fair to say that the Right, in general, has less time for Trans people than the Left, and the Left has less time for the military than the Right.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Nov 2015, 07:38 ---I think Momo is doing respectability politics. It's a powerful, useful, though frequently unsuccessful tactic for minority rights to provide an in-your-face disproof of all the harmful stereotypes. If so, she's not being fueled by moral indignation but by fear for her civil rights work.
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Much the same - but reversed - in the Trans community. If they can point to Trans women and men who have earned Silver Stars etc for courage, saving lives etc (as they can) it is in-your-face disproof of all the harmful stereotypes, so potentially useful to "the cause". The objection by many who lean to the Left is to the Military as a whole, even as a concept, on moral grounds. Which those who have been involved in the military can quite understand, it's a tragic necessity, not just the ultimate expression of maternal/paternal instinct.
I'm fascinated by the way Jeph is handling a similar, but mirror-image, issue.
J:
the last thing bubs needs is a judgemental & self-richeous doogooder getting up in her face about how she's 'failing the cause'.
hopefully momo can at least be tactful. and if not, then hopefully she disassembles as easily as pintsize does.
--- Quote from: katsmeat on 11 Nov 2015, 17:15 ---The purpose of the Bechdale test is to make a real world point. It (or the mechdaletest) doesn't seem to have any relevance in a world without a community of AIs
Passing or failing it when applied to AI's isn't really a thing.
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the thing about the bechdale test that people have a tendency to miss is that it's really only meaningful in aggregate, as a generalized 'average' for the roll of female characters in fiction. the question of whether or not any given individual work passes it is completely meaningless and irrelevant.
remember, Gravity & Pacific Rim both fail the test, but Twilight is bechdale approved.
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: J on 11 Nov 2015, 19:52 ---the last thing bubs needs is a judgemental & self-richeous doogooder getting up in her face about how she's 'failing the cause'.
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I suspect that once Momo gets to talk with Bubbles, she'll be more concerned with her mental wellbeing than any cause. You can't be an effective Activist without jettisoning the "Big Picture" sometimes in favour of being merely human. Or AI in Momo's case.
If you don't have empathy, kindness - what's the point of Activism? It's that that keeps you going.
mustang6172:
This is unexpected. I figured Momo was such a goody-goody that she wouldn't be able to resist the urge to report it.
Estron:
Then one wonders what other vocations and avocations some luckless sentients must do to get by -- oh yeah, "Sinfest" is a few webcomics up the list.
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