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WCDT Strips 3091 to 3095 (16-20 November 2015)
Kugai:
I think the bad part is gonna be bad and horrible.
J:
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--- Quote from: Penquin47 on 16 Nov 2015, 17:18 ---Why are we comparing Momo's reaction to May to Momo's reaction to Bubbles?
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Because it's such an informative case of "compare and contrast", and because Momo seems to be coming from the same place in both cases. She was afraid that May would reinforce or create a hateful stereotype and would thus undermine human support for AI civil rights. She was, maybe still is, afraid that Bubbles going to war reinforced a stereotype of dangerous robots and would thus undermine human support for AI civil rights.
She's listening with an open mind, I believe.
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she is, sort of. but here's the thing (at least as i subjectively see it): momo's acting like she's never had anyone disagree with her before. like she's always assumed that her viewpoint was not merely correct, but the default, which only deviants like may could possibly disagree with.
may fits into momo's existing ideological framework; initially she went into the box marked 'criminal', but now she's been moved into the box marked 'misguided'. in both cases, the ideology informs momo's behavior; first with hostility & distrust, then as a guide & good-example.
bubbles however, does not fit comfortably into that framework; she did something The Ideology says is bad, but does not appear to be a deviant like may. ERROR: momo are confused, ideology is fail her; not know how behave, need relieve cognitive dissonance. either need find ideological pigeon-hole for putting bubbles-bot into, or need alter ideology for including of new kinds of thinkings.
ZoeB:
+1 Insightful
Tova:
--- Quote from: J on 17 Nov 2015, 14:51 ---she is, sort of. but here's the thing (at least as i subjectively see it): momo's acting like she's never had anyone disagree with her before. like she's always assumed that her viewpoint was not merely correct, but the default, which only deviants like may could possibly disagree with.
may fits into momo's existing ideological framework; initially she went into the box marked 'criminal', but now she's been moved into the box marked 'misguided'. in both cases, the ideology informs momo's behavior; first with hostility & distrust, then as a guide & good-example.
bubbles however, does not fit comfortably into that framework; she did something The Ideology says is bad, but does not appear to be a deviant like may. ERROR: momo are confused, ideology is fail her; not know how behave, need relieve cognitive dissonance. either need find ideological pigeon-hole for putting bubbles-bot into, or need alter ideology for including of new kinds of thinkings.
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I agree with much of what is said here. There's no doubt that Momo's (arguably naive) ideas are being challenged, of course. But I think that the overall impression of what you've posted paints a picture of Momo being more closed-minded than she really is.
--- Quote ---may fits into momo's existing ideological framework; initially she went into the box marked 'criminal', but now she's been moved into the box marked 'misguided'.
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(my emphasis) Really? Momo's reluctant admission, "I ... I suppose you are right," in comic 3089 suggests to me that Momo accepted May's point of view, rather than, as you are suggesting here, writing her off as 'misguided'.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3089
--- Quote ---ERROR: momo are confused, ideology is fail her; not know how behave, need relieve cognitive dissonance. either need find ideological pigeon-hole for putting bubbles-bot into, or need alter ideology for including of new kinds of thinkings.
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It would be better if we could discuss characters' flaws without resorting to caricature, don't you think?
Lioness:
Count me as someone who was "... :/" at Momo actually showing up to Bubbles's place of employment to ask these kinds of sensitive questions. It seems intrusive to me.
Still, this will probably end up changing Momo's perspective and expanding her mind.
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