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WCDT Strips 3101 to 3105 (30th November to 4th December 2015)
RetroRefractive Noodle:
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--- Quote from: Omega Entity on 04 Dec 2015, 12:41 ---
--- Quote from: dawolf link=topic=33157.msg1340608#msg1340608 date=1449260076 ---The last couple of strips are really weird from a UK perspective.
You can take meds OR visit a psychiatrist! Those are your options!
Er....what about just talking things through with a friend? I know that 1 in 5 americans are on psychiatric drugs, but that doesn't make it normal for the rest of the world...
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Spoken like someone who has never suffered from severe depression and anxiety, and therefore doesn't know what they're talking about.
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I've had depression, not to the stage of getting formal help but definitely to the stage that it's messed things up for a while.
However, my point wasn't about me, but about Dora. She's stressed from work, doesn't know who to promote etc, talks to her girlfriend about it and the response is: drugs or psychologist (ok, fair difference on the word).
It's not a common (yep, a better word) response in the UK IMO for what are very minor issues really.
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There is NOTHING minor about Clinical Depression.
You do not know of what you speak.
Educate yourself, the internet is a vast repository of information.
Then return here and apologize for trivializing a profound and debilitating illness.
You're lucky the moderators melted my lug-wrench otherwise I'd be wrenching your lugs so hard right now you have NO idea.
Is it cold in here?:
I think he meant Dora's issues were trivial, not that clinical depression is.
On Freud's definition of health ("to love and to work") she's OK, but this business of expecting Pennelope to turn on her if offered a promotion is alarmingly and damagingly outside the usual range of emotion and cognition.
Tai is doubtless connecting this to previous arguments with Dora that she may have found alarming.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: dawolf on 04 Dec 2015, 23:51 ---However, my point wasn't about me, but about Dora. She's stressed from work, doesn't know who to promote etc, talks to her girlfriend about it and the response is: drugs or psychologist (ok, fair difference on the word).
It's not a common (yep, a better word) response in the UK IMO for what are very minor issues really.
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I think that you would benefit from reading more about Dora in the archives. This isn't an isolated incident. She has a history of paranoid ideation and delusions of betrayal that poisoned her first on-screen relationship - With Marten. She also has a similar difficulty dealing with her (admittedly long-time douchebag) older brother because she constantly sees betrayal where it isn't.
Under no circumstances is this about workplace stress or indecisiveness about who to promote. These are merely the most recent symptoms.
RetroRefractive Noodle:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 05 Dec 2015, 00:05 ---I think he meant Dora's issues were trivial, not that clinical depression is.
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Oh ok.
Can I still loosen his lugs when my replacement wrench gets here?
Tova:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 05 Dec 2015, 00:08 ---This isn't an isolated incident. She has a history of paranoid ideation and delusions of betrayal that poisoned her first on-screen relationship - With Marten. She also has a similar difficulty dealing with her (admittedly long-time douchebag) older brother because she constantly sees betrayal where it isn't.
Under no circumstances is this about workplace stress or indecisiveness about who to promote. These are merely the most recent symptoms.
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Yes, and Tai may well be able to deal with these symptoms on her own, by convincing her to promote, and to delegate a bit more, at least in the the short term. These are perfectly reasonable things to sort out with a friend.
But the long term issues remain - which, to my understanding at least, are her excessive need for control, and her inability to trust others (these are probably heavily intertwined).
Convincing Dora to attend therapy is one thing, which she may do under sufferance. A more productive line of action might be to try to convince her to acknowledge those issues, and that there is no shame in facing them. Once you reach that point, assuming she is then willing to confront them, not only will she be more amenable to therapy, but also the therapy sessions stand some chance of being productive.
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