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WCDT Strips 3101 to 3105 (30th November to 4th December 2015)

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swapna:

--- Quote from: sitnspin on 03 Dec 2015, 03:43 ---That being said, putting the brakes on Dora's downward slide doesn't have to, nor should it, involve ultimatums, especially not ones that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. The issue Tai is addressing is Dora's health. She's not complaining that Dora isn't spending enough time with her, which would be the only way a "the ship or me" would make any sense. Even if that was the case, ultimatums are still inherently shitty and manipulative. I don't see Tai doing that.

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Agreed - Tai has a lot of faults, but being manipulative is usually not one of them. The only time I remember was when she bullied Marten into giving her relationship advice. Also, she knows that she comes a distant second to the Coffee of Doom - 70 hours a week mean that Dora really can't spend any time with Tai (she still has to sleep and eat, and she has a half-hour commute to Amherst). Tai is not complaining about that, even though the only reason she can actually talk to Dora is because Doras employees forced her to take a half-day off.
It still could blow up in her face, though, because Dora gets defensive really fast and I'm surprised that she let Tai go that far. I don't think she sees a way out - she doesn't have a 'we're hiring' sign out (at least I didn't see one), the employees at the CoD work at full capacity and she is afraid to promote anybody. It would be difficult, too, because we never see her actively training employees beyond the very basics, so the only people she actually can promote are those who might have picked up more over time, like Penelope.
(yes, Tai is by all standards not a good manager, but she still manages to be better than Dora. She at least tries to encourage her employees to do more/better.)

BenRG:
I've got a horrible feeling that, given the current direction of events and Dora's inability to understand why this is a bad thing, Tai is going to end up uttering the horrible words: "I've tried but I can't keep doing this anymore". That isn't in any way imminent but it's a growing possibility and I don't want to try to guess just how badly this may affect Dora.

TheEvilDog:
I never said that Tai was in any way being manipulative, merely that she is being frustrated by her girlfriend constantly blowing off her concern. My point about Tai saying "I love you" was more that Dora didn't acknowledge what was said and instead so focused on work and trying to figure out more ways to get hours down. I've been on both sides of the discussion that Tai and Dora are having (while not about work, it was about health) and experience tells me that when it gets to that stage, one person will leave, if only for the sake of their own health. Tai might love Dora, but that doesn't mean she has to be buckled in for the inevitable ride to hell. Love will only go so far when there is only one person invested in the relationship.

sitnspin:
You didn't say Tai was being manipulative, you suggested she might give an ultimatum. I said ultimatums are inherently manipulative.

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 03 Dec 2015, 05:15 ---I've got a horrible feeling that, given the current direction of events and Dora's inability to understand why this is a bad thing, Tai is going to end up uttering the horrible words: "I've tried but I can't keep doing this anymore". That isn't in any way imminent but it's a growing possibility and I don't want to try to guess just how badly this may affect Dora.

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I can't see Tai ever giving up on Dora, even if she should. And Dora is probably gonna be very hesitant about ending another relationship.

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