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SPOILERS - Star Wars The Force Awakens Discussion and Overanalysis
hedgie:
--- Quote from: Akima on 24 Jul 2016, 16:57 ---And judging by the trailer for Rogue One, they're featuring yet another giant spherical super-weapon.
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You'd at least think that they'd try using a Platonic Solid or something for variety's sake.
Akima:
Speaking of over-analysis... Did anyone else think the scene where the space-Nazis fire the giant mega-gun of doom looked really peculiar? How could the beam be visible in the sky of the rebel base planet at the same time as it's blowing up the un-named disposable planets at which it was aimed? I know that the script said it was a "super luminal" weapon, presumably implying that it could be fired at interstellar distances, but the "backwash" is super-luminal too? And travels at close to infinite speed so that it can be seen at roughly the same time everywhere regardless of distance?
I know I shouldn't even try to think rationally about "science" in space-opera, but from a film-making point of view, it kicked me out of the story, making me think: "Wait... What? Is all the action taking place in a single solar system like Firefly, or something?" It made the Star Wars galaxy feel small, when surely that's the opposite of what should happen.
Neko_Ali:
Everything about that scene is wrong and ridiculous. And you are not the first to point out the logic and physics errors of firing an energy beam that can somehow break the speed of light and curve to hit five systems. All of which could be clearly seen from some other point in space. Even if the five planets had all been in the same system, there is no point that they could be seen with the naked eye so large. And that's not even counting that somehow, some way the Starkiller weapon is fueled by siphoning plasma through space from the nearest star. Somehow. Without incinerating at the very least everything on the surface around it. Somehow. And what they planned to do when the star was drained of power. Move the planet to another system?
Gladstone:
The simplest answer is, J. J. Abrams has no sense of scale. At all. From Kirk watching Vulcan explode from the surface of another planet and people somehow beaming across light-years willy-nilly to this laser-visible-across-the-galaxy bullshit, Abrams clearly has no idea how big space really is. It bothered me too.
As for the rest, I didn't mind the similarities. It was a nice return to Proper Star Wars. That said, I hope Episode VIII tries to be original instead of a flashier clone of Empire.
--- Quote from: Akima on 24 Jul 2016, 18:40 ---I know I shouldn't even try to think rationally about "science" in space-opera, but from a film-making point of view, it kicked me out of the story, making me think: "Wait... What? Is all the action taking place in a single solar system like Firefly, or something?" It made the Star Wars galaxy feel small, when surely that's the opposite of what should happen.
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Nah, it can't be like Firefly. There were Asian people in it.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: Gladstone on 24 Jul 2016, 21:08 ---Abrams clearly has no idea how big space really is.
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--- Quote from: Douglas Adams ---Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
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