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SPOILERS - Star Wars The Force Awakens Discussion and Overanalysis
Kugai:
Lucas lost credibility with the Prequels and, as far as I'm concerned, has lost all right to criticise what Abrams has done, and I'm not really a big fan of JarJar Abrams anyway considering what he did to Trek.
Tova:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 01 Jan 2016, 06:35 ---George may have created the franchise that I love so much, but it's clear it was a fluke on his part, and if he were to do it now I wouldn't give it a second glance.
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I can clearly recall the precise moment when I made this very realisation.
I had just finished watching Empire Strikes Back special edition... and was feeling a bit aggrieved by the changes Lucas made, when I decided to watch some of the bonus material. There was an interview with George Lucas, and they were discussing the changes that they made to the Wampa scene in the cave. I had enjoyed that scene in the past, because Luke is hanging there in the ice and it is clear that there is some ... creature ... that could devour him at any moment, but you don't get to see it, only hear it.
So I was interested to hear what he said about this scene. I don't recall exactly, so I'll have to paraphrase, but he basically said: "I know that it is technically better fillm making the way it was originally shot, but I really wanted to see the wampa."
Somehow, he knew the original was better, but wanted to change it anyway?
The conclusion I came to at the time was that George Lucas was a successful director only by luck, but since then I've decided that he simply is a better director when working with technological and editorial constraints that force him to be truly creative.
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--- Quote from: Tova on 01 Jan 2016, 01:45 ---Is she happy because Ford won't be in future Star Wars films? That's the only interpretation I can think of that makes any sense.
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Precisely so.
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How anyone could possibly enjoy Star Wars in spite of hating Harrison Ford when he is one of the major reasons for the films' success is intriguing.
--- Quote from: Kugai on 01 Jan 2016, 12:44 ---Lucas lost credibility with the Prequels and, as far as I'm concerned, has lost all right to criticise what Abrams has done, and I'm not really a big fan of JarJar Abrams anyway considering what he did to Trek.
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I am not a Trek fan at all, so I didn't approach Star Wars with any Abrams baggage, for lack of a better word. I get the impression that some people's impressions of the film have been a bit coloured by their reaction to what he's done in the past.
Thrillho:
She largely prefers the prequels to the originals. She finds Solo as a character irritating also, because of his cavalier attitude.
Also, another thing I loved - the insanely random cameo from the two stars of the Raid movies, which are two of my all-time favourite films.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 02 Jan 2016, 07:22 ---She largely prefers the prequels to the originals.
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Obligatory "what do you see in her?" :p
Thrillho:
I and III are underrated.
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