Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - January 2016
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 26 Jan 2016, 18:48 ---It's clearly an explosive round, isn't the blast what's knocking Alice back?
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Kinetic energy transfer. Those fifty-calibre shells have a lot of kinetic energy
--- Quote from: katsmeat on 26 Jan 2016, 18:44 ---If it is a Boys Anti Tank rifle, she must have been doing something quite funky with the cartridges. I assume the British would not have dropped them in World War 2 for being generally crap and useless (so says Wikipedia) if the rounds carried that kind of energy. Even Tiger tanks would've been quickly looking like 60-ton colanders if shot at with one of those.
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Actually, you're overestimating the armour penetration here. A 50-calibre bullet that has evolved into multi-mile range anti-light vehicle munition bounced off of Panzer mk.3 armour like soft rubber balls. You needed a three-inch armour-piercing explosive shell to penetrate that.
Is it cold in here?:
Alice said that if the Praeses invaded she could inflict severe losses. To do that she must have long-range offensive weapons.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 27 Jan 2016, 00:13 ---Alice said that if the Praeses invaded she could inflict severe losses. To do that she must have long-range offensive weapons.
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Probably long-range offensive capabilities that don't strictly fit into our concept of 'weapons'. Energy casters, super-power tasers (more like lightning throwers) and a variety of kinetic capabilities. Just imagine what sort of devastation Iron Man could inflict on an invading army and you've probably got a good idea of what she could do.
She was, after all, very obviously made to be a weapon. She has chosen to be a protector and a builder instead. That's a very positive example, I think.
katsmeat:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 26 Jan 2016, 23:30 ---Actually, you're overestimating the armour penetration here. A 50-calibre bullet that has evolved into multi-mile range anti-light vehicle munition bounced off of Panzer mk.3 armour like soft rubber balls. You needed a three-inch armour-piercing explosive shell to penetrate that.
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Alice is well built - lets assume she weights 65kg. Gets knocked backwards at 3m/s. Amazingly, Wikipedia tells me a Boys bullet weights 61g. Holy shit - the round was moving at 3200 m/s. It was carrying 0.3 MJ - 18 times the energy of a real Boys round (thanks again WP). Yeah.... colander time.
If course as Method of Madnesss said, this is an explosive round and she was knocked back by the explosion, not the impact. The calculation is therefore irrelevant; fun thing to do instead of work, though.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: katsmeat on 27 Jan 2016, 03:16 ---Alice is well built - lets assume she weights 65kg. Gets knocked backwards at 3m/s.
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Where did you get that figure for Alice's post-impact velocity from? She could have just as easily been knocked back off of her feet at an initial veloocity measured in centimetres per second. For an object with a high centre-of-gravity like the humanoid body, that's enough to knock us over.
What about the flash? Well, the bullet struck Alice's exo-armour, which I suspect is an 'immovable object'. Thus, I suspect that a lot of its kinetic energy may have been turned into thermal energy, so what we're seeing is incandescent copper and lead radiating away from the impact point.
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