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Computer beats human champion at Go
TheEvilDog:
I, for one, welcome our new computerised masters and as a human of dubious moral conviction, I could be useful in rounding up others to serve as organic battery packs!
osaka:
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From what I have read, Go actually can't be brute-forced, at least not with today's technology. Much of the advance really is from improvements to learning AI, as well as the ability of a computer to train by playing millions of games in a fairly short period of time.
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Well, it can't be bruteforced from turn 0, but I'm pretty sure that at some point you can enter the realm of what can be bruteforced. Although yeah, deep learning is an advancement.
Akima:
This is an impressive feat, but Google's posting should be put in context. The human player was Fan Hui 2p, and Google describes him as "an elite professional player". A 2-dan professional will be a strong player, and certainly much stronger than I am, but at Fan's age it makes him a "journeyman" pro, not "elite". Fan Hui has won tournaments in Europe, but that is strictly bush-league, and he has no track record of wins or even decent placings against the top pros from Korea, China, and Japan.
Google is not resting on its laurels though; Lee Sedol 9p has accepted a challenge to play AlphaGo in March. It's a toss-up whether Lee Sedol or Gu Li 9p was the strongest player in the world for the first decade of the 21st century, so that is definitely moving up to the first division, and I'm looking forward eagerly to seeing the games.
Despite what Google claims, this is not the first time a professional player has been beaten by a computer program. In 2012 Takemiya Masaki 9p was twice beaten by Zen, but he gave the computer five stones for the first game and four stones for the second. It is impressive that AlphaGo was able to win against a pro on equal terms, and I think it's the first time that has been done.
It's been clear for some time that computers beating top humans at Go was a matter of "when" not "if".
RedWolf4:
We can still welcome our Robot overlords and go Quisling on everyone though right?
Masterpiece:
The real question should be, "when will we reach the moment the computer know it's playing go, instead of just hammering down a simple algorithm?"
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