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WCDT Strips 3191-3195 (4th to 8th April 2016)

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JimC:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 07 Apr 2016, 11:04 ---This is not someone who uses violence without control. What Swapna seems to be seeing, which I can't see, is someone who is a real threat to people because she lashes out violently against random people when she loses her temper. That is actually the last thing she does. Yes, she has a serious problem controlling her anger but she seems to have enough control over her actions that, no matter how aggressively she acts out, she causes no long-term harm.
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And we shouldn't forget she walked away from the kid who made the comment in the first place without so much as a single remark.  There's control there, even if it had boiled up by the time she got back to base.

Zebediah:
So, out of curiosity, if you think Bubbles is a potential danger to others, what precisely do you suggest be done about it?

Morituri:
Hmmm.  Weekly meeting with therapists down at the VA - and a lot of hanging out and talking with guys who had similar issues for similar reasons - did a world of good for one of my friends who went off to Iraq and came back with some trouble.

swapna:

--- Quote from: sitnspin on 07 Apr 2016, 10:30 ---I wonder, swapna, if you know what it's like to live as someone who is part of a marginalized group. Your comments display a degree of privilege that suggests otherwise. As a human who has spent my entire life experiencing racism and homophobia, it's far more than just "mean comments", it is outright bigotry. And even with what I've experienced, I was still (mostly) considered human by those bigots. With Bubbles, the bigots are denying her existence as a sapient being. A lifetime of having your personhood attacked and questioned, of being denied basic civil rights can understandably foster an intense amount of anger. Couple that with untreated PTSD and her reactions are quite understandable. She's not a moody teenager, she is an adult who has suffered wartime trauma and a lifetime of bigotry.

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First of all, I don't appreciate your assumptions about me; please stick to attacking my arguments.

To your argument: I don't say I don't understand Bubbles' reaction, I do. "Mean" was probably the wrong word choice, but I wanted to underline that (I think) responding to verbal attacks with physical violence is never warranted (especially since she gets physical with people who, sometimes, don't even know what happened).



--- Quote from: BenRG on 07 Apr 2016, 11:04 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 07 Apr 2016, 10:51 ---A key point and well taken, but it doesn't explain assaulting Marten at the door or blasting a hole in the wall next to Faye's head.
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[some very well-made points]

This must be taken into consideration when evaluating her actions. She's not trying to harm anyone; indeed, she's trying to protect them from harm (albeit in due to a slightly delusional view of her own nature). Corpse Witch's implications notwithstanding, I've seen no evidence to suggest that Bubbles, even in a full-on rage, would allow herself to cause serious injury to someone. Indeed, her behaviour with Emily and her view of the Robot Fights suggests that this is something that she would work hard to avoid.

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I agree in that Bubbles doesn't want to cause harm; her personality suggests that she tries everything to avoid it. Still - imagine Faye picking up Claire and scaring her to the point where the only thing Claire can say is 'help'?
And in this case, Claire would still be in a better position than Marten was, because she would actually have a chance of getting out of Faye's grip.

Just because she doesn't want to cause harm doesn't mean she doesn't do it.  Yes, she could have broken Faye's bones, she could have murdered the jerks and Punchbot. That she didn't do it isn't an indication for what a great person she is it's the basic requirement for 'Person we don't consider too dangerous not to lock up'.

If her anger issues were so bad that she broke people's bones, she'd be in robo-jail already; she skirts the edge, though. She has understandable reasons for what she does, but so did Faye when she was hitting Marten. It still didn't make it okay.

(Wanted to write something for Zebediah, but Morituri said it better)

Is it cold in here?:
Someone in Iraq almost drew a court martial for enhancing a prisoner interrogation by firing his sidearm into a clearing barrel. Conviction could have been an 11 year sentence.

If that's an assault charge under UCMJ, then Bubbles should have had inhibitions about demonstrating deadly capabilities to intimidate a civilian.

A full-strength punch from Bubbles is more likely to kill than a handgun round. Deliberately missing doesn't save it from being assault.

She's right on the bottom edge of being sufficiently self-controlled to walk around safely, and even at that Faye might have made a charge of reckless endangerment stick.

Concretely, to answer the question of what society should do, it would make sense to have her swap to a human-equivalent chassis and get the armor back after passing anger management therapy.

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