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WCDT Strips 3206 to 3210 (25 to 29 April 2016)

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brightwings00:
*raises hand*

I'm the one who first brought up 'asshole' as a gendered insult, because I'd mostly heard it applied to men in the past. But I can definitely see how it's a gender-neutral term (everyone has one) and how Jeph would have wanted to avoid anything more salty.

Now I'm thinking about how women get insulted. :-\

Zebediah:

--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 27 Apr 2016, 03:41 ---The comic's setting likely affects the amount of social progress, too, relative to the rest of the US. I'd guess that Northampton (real or QC) is far more accepting of trans people than, say, the real or QC version of rural North Carolina.

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God yes. I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole of RL politics, but having lived both places, I can assert that Massachusetts is FAR more accepting of trans people than most of North Carolina. And Claire is living in one of the most tolerant parts of Massachusetts. She's in possibly the safest place for her in the entire US, and she STILL has to worry about her safety if she's outed.

That being said, Clinton wasn't misgendering Claire in any way. It's one of his best character traits that he's always been very supportive of Claire's transition.

DSL:
I think that in _this particular_ discussion, the "gendered insult" topic snowballed from a relatively offhand observation, and to me is starting to resemble the "so what you're rrally saying is ... " method of argument, a method I find somewhat odious. Odorous. Whatever.

I admit my first thought on reading the comic was that Clinton, in his rage, will do something rash with bad consequences for Claire. Two things mitigate against that: Jeph has presented the Augustus sibling dynamic as fighting like cats with each other, but each defending the other against all outside comers with equal ferocity; and Jeph's pattern of presenting what looks like an insurmountable crisis only to show at least parts of it resolving themselves or fading out in short order, if only through the characters' own impulse to just keep on keepin' on.

Wherr Clinton may have _really_ stepped in it, though, is in going off on not only his sister, but on Emily's much-admired possibly Very Best Friend, possibly in full view through the CoD front window. Jeph has presented enough hints that We Wouldn't Like To See Emily When She's Angry. Of coirse, we're bavk to the Jeph Pattern as a possible mitigator.

I keep thinking Jeph shows that pattern repeatedly only to make it all the more jarring if/when he finally does choose to show an absolutely irreparable blowup.

blt:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 26 Apr 2016, 23:30 ---I've posted this before but, in the end, one of the real problems here is that, whilst Claire loves her brother, she neither likes or respects him. Add to this the fact that she is manipulative in nature (as she's shown with Pintsize) and her basically treating Clinton's personal life as a problem to solve, with or without his cooperation, was pretty much inevitable.

Her intentions were good but, in the end, it was all torn down by her basically assuming that she is so smart that everything will happen according to her scheme, even though she didn't even clear it with Emily first.

As I say, it will be interesting to see where Claire goes from here. It will tell us a lot about her as a person.

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This post honestly made me rethink a lot of my opinion about Claire.  Before, I was still on Clinton's side, yeah, because I'm just not a fan of meddling, especially as a surprise to both parties, but I just felt like Claire was well intentioned and made a stupid mistake.

Now I actually sort of see Clinton's "manipulated" angle (some of the stuff she did to Pintsize was kinda messed up too), and hopefully the strip might go that way for her character development thread, cause I still really like Claire.

Method of Madness:
I'm pretty sure Claire is going to talk to Emily tomorrow, what I'm not sure about is whether she'll apologize, blame Emily, or something in between.

Also, I think people are being way too hard on Claire. This isn't the first time she's done this with Clinton and Emily, and the other times it's ended up well and Clinton probably seemed grateful at the time. Why should she not expect it to work again?

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