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themacnut:
He might have been, but his objections would have been more easily swatted down by Cllaire;

"Dammit Claire, what if she said no?.."
"Well she didn't, so get over yourself! I know what I'm doing."
"This time..."
"Last time too, brother dear."

hedgie:

--- Quote from: Case on 27 Apr 2016, 13:50 ---
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 27 Apr 2016, 10:24 ---
--- Quote from: jheartney on 27 Apr 2016, 08:39 ---Clinton's problem isn't that he didn't prepare himself. His problem was that he'd blown off facing this at all for months.

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Clinton's problem is Claire and her incessant need to enforce her will on others. No matter how well meaning, she was manipulative and controlling. That shit does not fly. It is shitty behavior regardless of intent. She deserved to be called out in it.

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+1

Matchmaking without the consent (or even knowledge) of the people involved = big red flag for boundary issues.

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Matchmaker, Matchmaker fuck the hell off.

jheartney:
Claire didn't make Clinton ask out Emily; all she did was take him to the coffee shop where Emily worked. He could have just said hello to her. He's the one that A. pitched a fit at Claire in front of Emily and then B. made a hamfisted date ask, and then C. went medieval on Claire after Emily said no. I don't see how he could have handled it any worse.

Had Claire told Clinton Emily was there ahead of time, he probably would have chickened out. At least this way the whole thing is resolved, and Clinton can move on to blowing it with some other gal. Or just hanging out alone forever because he's chicken.

swapna:

--- Quote from: jheartney on 27 Apr 2016, 14:51 ---Claire didn't make Clinton ask out Emily; all she did was take him to the coffee shop where Emily worked. He could have just said hello to her. He's the one that A. pitched a fit at Claire in front of Emily and then B. made a hamfisted date ask, and then C. went medieval on Claire after Emily said no. I don't see how he could have handled it any worse.

Had Claire told Clinton Emily was there ahead of time, he probably would have chickened out. At least this way the whole thing is resolved, and Clinton can move on to blowing it with some other gal. Or just hanging out alone forever because he's chicken.

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Well, she also (indirectly) informed Emily that Clinton wanted to ask her out; but yeah, he's not very good at it. The point here is - he had the option to ask her out any time, and he didn't. They see each other; they have classes together. He thought about it (and trusted Claire with his problems), but it's still his problem. Claire forced a decision, and she immediately forced a romantic direction. If he'd asked her to spend time with him as a friend, he would have looked dishonest and sleazy.

And yes, he might have chickened out, but where's the harm in that? Maybe the reason why he didn't ask her out again is because he didn't know if they were a good fit, after the first date. She seems to think so (or she genuinely doesn't have the time, could be both with Emily). Why make her shoot him down when he knows that it's probably going to happen, instead of accepting the missing romantic connection?  It's not as if 'resolving' anything makes it better somehow, on the contrary.

Edit: Also, he's 21. He's still figuring everything out - he might be a late bloomer, just as his sister. As far as we know, Claire only started dating when she was 24, and that is because Marten made the first move. He is clearly uncomfortable with dating, and he has a lot to learn about himself and others. It's not as if there's no time, or as if he has to date or as if he's going to be "forever alone" if he doesn't ask out a lot of girls. Which is a bad motivation to ask someone out anyway; would you go out with someone who just wants a warm body next to them and fakes interest as a means to an end, if you could actually hang with people who are interested in you as a person?

Roxtar:
it's disheartening how many people are excusing Claire's bullshit behavior. then again, most people are willing to overlook massive flaws in characters they happen to like... which is why people remain in toxic relationships for so long.

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