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WCDT Strips 3211 to 3215 (2nd to 6th May 2016)
Kugai:
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 03 May 2016, 19:23 ---I recall Faye once knocking a drunk Marten to the floor.
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To be fair, it was after the Dorapocalypse Breakup, he was six sheets to the wind, he got 'Overly Friendly' to Faye and she did warn him.
Nice to see Jack is now Canon and I like the fact that Clinton stood up to her over her overreaction.
neurocase:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 03 May 2016, 23:55 ---Clinton didn't really do anything to set her off. Whenever the cast would threaten someone in the past, it was almost always because they were being a huge asshole, creepy, or otherwise instilling great annoyance and frustration to those around them.
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Quoted and bolded because this is where the huge rub is for me. The way the violence was handled back then was comical. Even when Dora drew the sword on Cosette, it was done humorously. The psycho facial expression, the build-up, and Faye's assertion that it was Penelope's turn to clean up the blood. It was played for laughs, and had a catalyst. Bar Lady just drew a harpoon (formerly a shotgun) on a patron who wasn't being disruptive, inconveniencing her, or even saying anything. Clinton had a bad day (not hard to infer from his demeanor) and was simply staring moodily into a glass of drink he didn't want. In no universe does that warrant pulling a dangerous weapon on a person, and in the context of the comic, with absolutely no humor.
Case:
--- Quote from: DashaBlade on 03 May 2016, 19:52 ---Apropos of absolutely nothing...
--- Quote from: Kugai on 03 May 2016, 16:10 ---Might I suggest we all take a deep breath, calm down and wait to see where Jeph takes this Storyline before we all start reaching for the Tar and Feathers?
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When I read this I first saw it as "Tai and Feathers" and took a few moments to picture that before rereading what you posted.
Though my vote is now officially that we need a Tai and Feathers storyline.
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Seconded!
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 03 May 2016, 20:42 ---Dolphin Jack has always been canon to me.
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I put forward the motion that Pintsize having said that line is henceforth considered canon.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 03 May 2016, 20:42 ---Dolphin Jack has always been canon to me.
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Strip 3211 was canon for me from the start but maybe that's just me.
Prediction:
The next two strips are just going to be standard issue Marten-and-Faye quips and barbs only between Clinton and Bar Lady. They'll exchange names when Clinton leaves on Friday and, for a month or so, that will be it. It won't be until he comes back to Northampton to see his mother or try to rebuild bridges with Claire will he run into her again and the complications will start to ensue.
APersonAmI:
--- Quote from: ankhtahr on 03 May 2016, 16:35 ---Our opinions seem to differ a lot about this. I think the retcon was exactly the right thing to do. The intentions of Jeph weren't to display the indubitably severe consequences of pulling a gun on an innocent person. His intention was to make a simple joke based on hyperbole. Consider that nobody was supposed to see the original version of the comic. Jeph had already corrected this mistake before uploading the comic, he merely uploaded the wrong file. He doesn't want to show the consequences because the character isn't that bad. He just made the wrong choice in showing this, and wanted to correct that mistake before uploading, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten Dolphin Jack yesterday.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Jeph doesn't not show the consequences because that person should get away with that, but rather because in his (usually rather utopic, see e.g. Smif accepting trans* students in contrary to the real Smith University, at least until 2015) universe the character doesn't actually do it in the first place. If, in the canon version, the character actually did something that bad, he would show the consequences, I'm sure of it.
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Eh. I have gotten some sleep now. I am no longer angry about the retcon, and I agree that the retcon made sense. However, it is my opinion that the change was indeed made so she wouldn't go to prison, if possibly for the reason of letting Jeph keep his original plans for the character, rather than to say that her violence was okay.
New comic: Eh. Still don't like her very much. Proud of Clinton, though. Glad he stood up for himself.
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