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WCDT Strips 3211 to 3215 (2nd to 6th May 2016)
Tova:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 05 May 2016, 21:49 ---I do not care for this comic. Just because Clinton is stupid doesn't make Claire's actions okay. I'm going to bold this next point:
The reason it is wrong to manipulate someone else for their benefit is because it could potentially go wrong.
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Okay, fine, if you want to be like that. I'll just ask you to go ahead and point out to me where in the comic that you don't care for anyone states that what Claire did was perfectly fine.
Once you've done that, contemplate what kind of epiphany Clinton may have had and tell me what you think.
Forgive me, but when Clinton has had an unspecified epiphany, and the reactions to that are simply "NO NO CLAIRE WAS WRONG," then yes, I regard that as painting her as a cartoonish villian.
jheartney:
Clinton's a dude that needs a nudge; he needed a nudge from Claire to resolve the Emily situation, and another nudge from harpoon bartender to realize why he was mad. He also seems to possess a karmic attraction to off-kilter gals.
Twenty years from now he's going to figure out that he should have just sat back and enjoyed the ride.
mikmaxs:
--- Quote from: Tova on 05 May 2016, 21:59 ---
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 05 May 2016, 21:49 ---I do not care for this comic. Just because Clinton is stupid doesn't make Claire's actions okay. I'm going to bold this next point:
The reason it is wrong to manipulate someone else for their benefit is because it could potentially go wrong.
--- End quote ---
Okay, fine, if you want to be like that. I'll just ask you to go ahead and point out to me where in the comic that you don't care for anyone states that what Claire did was perfectly fine.
Once you've done that, contemplate what kind of epiphany Clinton may have had and tell me what you think.
Forgive me, but when Clinton has had an unspecified epiphany, and the reactions to that are simply "NO NO CLAIRE WAS WRONG," then yes, I regard that as painting her as a cartoonish villian.
--- End quote ---
This is hardly an 'Unspecified' epiphany. Considering the context, it's hardly likely that he just had an idea for his next tattoo. And what I dislike about the comic is not that it does or doesn't exonerate Claire, but rather that it implies that Clinton shouldn't have been mad about the manipulation. Due to the way the comic is framed and set up, it makes Clinton out to be a hypocrite.
And again, it's worth pointing out that 'Claire made a mistake, and is the one at fault in this situation' is not the same as 'Claire is an evil mustache-twirling villain'.
Tova:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 05 May 2016, 22:50 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 05 May 2016, 21:59 ---
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 05 May 2016, 21:49 ---I do not care for this comic. Just because Clinton is stupid doesn't make Claire's actions okay. I'm going to bold this next point:
The reason it is wrong to manipulate someone else for their benefit is because it could potentially go wrong.
--- End quote ---
Okay, fine, if you want to be like that. I'll just ask you to go ahead and point out to me where in the comic that you don't care for anyone states that what Claire did was perfectly fine.
Once you've done that, contemplate what kind of epiphany Clinton may have had and tell me what you think.
Forgive me, but when Clinton has had an unspecified epiphany, and the reactions to that are simply "NO NO CLAIRE WAS WRONG," then yes, I regard that as painting her as a cartoonish villian.
--- End quote ---
This is hardly an 'Unspecified' epiphany. Considering the context, it's hardly likely that he just had an idea for his next tattoo. And what I dislike about the comic is not that it does or doesn't exonerate Claire, but rather that it implies that Clinton shouldn't have been mad about the manipulation. Due to the way the comic is framed and set up, it makes Clinton out to be a hypocrite.
--- End quote ---
It implies no such thing. Try again.
QuestionableIntentions:
No, bad Clinton! Don't let others play with you just because it might turn out alright!
Let's be honest, Claire did this as much to help him as to mess with him.
If she had only tried to help she would have told him beforehand. Sure, he would have freaked out, but that's his prerogative! You can't just manipulate someone because you think you know better.
If Clinton now goes "Oh, it was all my fault, so sorry, please continue Claire" I will be very disappointed.
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