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WCDT Strips 3211 to 3215 (2nd to 6th May 2016)
TinPenguin:
Barkeep is picking on Clinton because he has a robot hand and she is racist. And angry. Everyone is angry and racist. All except Dolphin Jack. He's a free spirit.*
*There are no free spirits. This is a bar. We sell beer and liquor.
Case:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 03 May 2016, 06:53 ---Also, is "Old Rat" really a top-shelf item? I mostly drink beer, so I wouldn't know... :angel:
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It's a variant of "That Old Janx Spirit" - for the discriminating customer ...
vodyanoi:
--- Quote from: brightwings00 on 03 May 2016, 05:52 ---
--- Quote from: vodyanoi on 03 May 2016, 05:06 ---That's a lot of words to justify bigotry.
Even were I to accept the premise of your statement, which I don't since it is deeply fallacious: (Elliott Rodgers was not white and whitewashing him like that is gross. The quantity of shooters that make the news is not a statistic of value and is outweighed by relevant statistics like actual quantities of mass shooters. Fighting bigotry with bigotry doesn't seem to be working. And your entire statement is contradictory since it assumes this "thinking" bigotry has no effect as compared to "unthinking" bigotry. Why can't you just say "Hey that's kind of a dick thing to say" to your atheist friends? Or do you go tirades about their need to make up for Stalinist Russia)
Even were I to accept those premises, I don't understand the vigorous need to complain about shitting on the rug while you piss on the carpet.
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I went and looked up Elliott Rodgers, and you're absolutely correct on that front--my bad.
But if you want statistics on mass shootings, I looked those up too--the Washington Post says that out of 128 mass shooting perpetrators, all but three of them were male and the vast majority were between the ages of 20 to 49. Over here it says that between 1982 and 2015, 44 out of 75 mass shootings were perpetrated by white people. Am I saying that every single white young man should be profiled on this basis? No, absolutely not. But I don't think it's groundbreaking to say that there's a culture we've created--call it toxic masculinity or whatever you want--where people like these angry white young men, the kind of people you'd find in the darkest corners of 4chan or Reddit, are feeling increasingly disenfranchised by diversity ("I can't talk to girls anymore", "I got passed over for this job because they wanted to be politically correct", "I can't make jokes without someone getting offended") and that plays into their complex, and some of them are dangerous. That's something we need to address.
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Your source is a chart without any information. I on the other hand have:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map
Which shows 44 of 80 to be white men, which is quite a bit less than US racial percentage. Even your example has white men account for 58.6% of the shootings, which is still less than their racial percentage ought to be. Your arguing that white men actually aren't violent enough, which is pretty amusing. Asian men actually make up a out of proportion portion. I suppose you should be joking about them, but that's the wrong kind of bigotry, huh. Instead, you'd rather make assumptions and cast people into bigoted stereotyped roles to fulfill some kind of weird masturbatory fan-fiction. The problem with the mindset of "lesser" bigotry is that seeks self-satisfaction and denies empathy.
Random832:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 03 May 2016, 03:29 ---Okay, just to make something absolutely clear here: Jeph's footer notes on the strips (the text next to his copyright notice) are very rarely, if ever, serious. It's an author's extra punchline, that's all. So, he's not making a racially profiling comment about white men. He's not justifying Bar Lady's actions. He's making a humorous remark on the strip, that's all!
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I think what's going on here is that people are assuming that - regardless of it's justified or not, it's meant to be the actual reason for her actions. And, given that, they're comparing Jeph's joking "to be fair" comment with the horrified reaction that she would get if she made a similar assumption about someone of a different race.
cesium133:
--- Quote from: TV4Fun on 03 May 2016, 07:26 ---I can see some DBZ Abridged-style humor happening with this strip: "This a shotgun. Now it's a harpoon. Now it's a stapler. Now it's a dildo. Now it's Pintsize."
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It would work well with a script like on that one xkcd comic that shows a different thing to each person depending on their web browser/location, etc.
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