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WCDT Strips 3231 - 3235 (30th May to 3rd June 2016)

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BenRG:
Another thought regarding Brun: I can't really blame her for snapping at Clinton in panel 3. I bet that she's had her fill in her life of people treating her as an incapable imbecile who needs to be led everywhere by the hand. I have no doubt that every bit of independence she has, she has had to fight for it, tooth and nail against well-meaning but misguided people.

Of course, that makes it all the harder when you lose a bit of that independence (or a lot, as she has in her current situation) and you do need to rely on well-meaning others for various things.

Also: "I'm saying it for me." I wonder how often she has to tell herself that everything is okay, that she's still in control of her life and that there is nothing to confuse or frighten her? Some people have wondered when she'll break, emotionally, and cry about what's happened to her. I don't think that she will; I don't think that she can allow herself to do so.

oddtail:

--- Quote from: chaospersonified on 01 Jun 2016, 19:02 ---Oddtail, you say there's no reason for us to believe she's anything but serious in her threats. I'd argue common sense would be reason enough to believe she's exaggerating. She thinks Clinton might hurt her friend. She'd be very upset if that happened, so she makes threats she'd never actually follow through on to convey to Clinton how she feels. I know many people who would respond that way. I know no one who would seriously threaten a person that way over the phone.

We have no visual of Renee. you say we have no reason to believe she's not serious. I say we have no reason to believe she IS. If we consider QC somewhat realistic, then Renee likely has a personality type we've seen before. I've never met someone who sincerely threatened a stranger with castration.

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I don't think not being 100% literally serious is the same as joking. I've seen people make over the top threats of physical violence when their intention was obviously to intimidate rather than to joke. For instance "I'll rip your head off" is unlikely to be literally true, but I've still heard this threat uttered in obvious anger and from a person who was otherwise very hostile. To say nothing of the relatively bland "I'm gonna kill you" that I've heard people say on many occasions. No, this is not actually a threat people intend to follow up on - most people do not kill other people [citation needed]. But it's still a threat rather than a "ha ha" joke.

The fact that we don't see Renee is kinda circumstantial evidence that it's not a joke. What I mean by this is, we don't have much of a context for a joke to be reasonable/acceptable, but that means neither does Clinton. She doesn't know Clinton, nor does she know what is acceptable to say to him. We know she's very upset, and we know she is yelling, then she proceeds to yell even more. That indicates anger rather than a jocular mood. It also does not tend to be socially acceptable to threaten physical harm to a person as a joke when they are not a person you know well.

Again, hyperbole is not the same as a joke. Renee is obviously very upset, so I don't see how Clinton can possibly construe her hostility as being in jest.

Or to put it yet another way, if someone I knew nothing about walked up to me and threatened physical harm, what should be my first reaction? Amusement at their antics or fear for my well-being? The default assumption "it's a joke, obviously" does not hold water in my opinion. It's only a joke where both people in the exchange have some common frame of reference to infer a joke.

Tova:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 02 Jun 2016, 01:19 ---Another thought regarding Brun: I can't really blame her for snapping at Clinton in panel 3. I bet that she's had her fill in her life of people treating her as an incapable imbecile who needs to be led everywhere by the hand. I have no doubt that every bit of independence she has, she has had to fight for it, tooth and nail against well-meaning but misguided people.

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I would not blame her either, but I don't think she was snapping at Clinton.  I think that her words in both panels three and four were for herself.

Is it cold in here?:
Brun knows Renee and didn't seem alarmed.

FacelessDeviant:
"I have a routine. My routine keeps me organized."

Debatable, with the whole "didn't know about renters insurance" thing.

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